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Friday, January 06 2012 - 12:10 AM
This is why Ron Paul's foreign affairs are EXACTLY geared for the proper way towards peace. It has SO MUCH to do with FREE TRADE!!! FOR EVERYONE!!!
Jan 5 2012, 5:22 PM ET 45
A week ago Ron Paul tried to convey how the ever-tightening sanctions on Iran—which may soon include an embargo on its oil—look from an Iranian point of view: It’s as if China were to blockade the Gulf of Mexico, he said—“an act of war”.
This is sheer conjecture; Ron Paul is no expert on Iran. But now someone who does have relevant credentials has weighed in, and the picture he paints is disturbingly reminiscent of the one Paul painted. It suggests we may be closer to war than most people realize.
Vali Nasr, in addition to being a highly respected expert on the Middle East, belongs to a family that, according to Lobelog’s sources, has “a direct line into Iranian Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s inner circle.” In a Bloomberg View piece that is getting a lot of attention, Nasr reports that “Iran has interpreted sanctions that hurt its oil exports, which account for about half of government revenue, as acts of war.” Indeed, the Iranian leadership now sees U.S. policy as “aimed at regime change.”
In this light, Iran’s recent threats—notably that it will close the Strait of Hormuz in response to an oil embargo—shouldn’t be dismissed, says Nasr. “The regime in Tehran is ready for a fight.”
The good news is that Nasr thinks war can be averted. The bad news is that to accomplish this America and other Western powers need to “imagine how the situation looks from Tehran”—not exactly a favorite pastime among American politicians these days.
Still, if only for the intellectual exercise, let’s do try to imagine what things look like from Iran’s point of view.
Iran’s nuclear scientists have recently evinced a tendency to get assassinated, and a mysterious explosion at a military facility happened to kill the general in charge of Iran’s missile program. These things were almost certainly done by Israel, possibly with American support. If you were Iranian, would you consider assassinations on your soil grounds for attacking the suspected perpetrators?
Well, we know that some notable Americans think assassinating people on American soil is punishable by war. After the alleged Iranian plot to assassinate a Saudi Ambassador in Washington was uncovered, Bill Kristol (whom you may recall from our previous run-up to a disastrous war) recommended that we attack Iran.
But I’m guessing that if I tried this Iran-America analogy out on Kristol, he might detect asymmetries. For example: We’re us, whereas they’re just them.
Underlying our Iran strategy is the assumption that if we keep ratcheting up the pressure, the regime will eventually say uncle. A problem with this premise is that throughout human history rulers have shown an aversion to being seen by their people as surrendering. Indeed, when you face dissent, as the Iranian regime does, there’s actually a certain appeal to confronting an external threat, since confrontation tends to consolidate domestic support. As Nasr puts it, “the ruling clerics are responding with shows of strength to boost solidarity at home.”
This doesn’t mean Iran’s rulers haven’t wanted to make a deal. But it does mean the deal would have to leave these rulers with a domestically plausible claim to have benefited from it, and it also means these leaders can’t afford to be seen begging for the deal. When President Ahmadinejad visited New York last year, he gave reporters unmistakable signals that he wanted to negotiate, but the Obama administration chose to ignore them. After Ahmadinejad “went home empty handed,” reports Nasr, power increasingly shifted to Iranians who argued for confrontation over diplomacy.
Even so, Iran’s foreign minister made another appeal to re-open talks only days ago, suggesting that they be held in Turkey. But, as the New York Times reported, western nations interpreted this overture “as an effort by Iran to buy time to continue its program.” Got that? If Iranians refuse to negotiate it means they don’t want a deal, and if they ask to negotiate it means they don’t want a deal.
Nasr says the tightening of the screws is making Iran increasingly determined to get nuclear weapons—not to start a war, but to prevent one. Having seen what happened to Muammar Qaddafi, says Nasr, Iran’s leaders worry that foreign powers would “feel safe enough to interfere in the affairs of a non-nuclear-armed state.”
This is the kind of thing Ron Paul presumably had in mind when he said Iran may want nuclear weapons in order to get some “respect.” But hey, what does Ron Paul know?
American says...
Peace will come with free trade and proper contractual enforcements.
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roxi says...
“In this light, Iran’s recent threats—notably that it will close the Strait of Hormuz in response to an oil embargo—shouldn’t be dismissed, says Nasr. “The regime in Tehran is ready for a fight.” "
Iran will not close the Strait of Hormuz, because they don’t want to piss off their largest customer – CHINA.
Comb-over Trump’s interests aren’t for the American people’s interests…they’re for Trumps interests – only.
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Cybertariat says...
Yes, Dr. Ron Paul has based much of his campaign upon his strong opposition to the US military’s occupation of Afghanistan. But he is not offering any type of alternative worldview that would see to the avoidance of such imperialist wars in the future. In fact, Dr. Paul is nothing more than a Republican with very reactionary credentials. As per usual, his presidential campaign rhetoric is made up of the typical reactionary fare – much of which is very much in line with “states’ rights” segregationists and the Christian reactionary right-wing.
We should have to look no further than Ron Paul’s own statements having to do with various issues and policies to understand the reactionary character of his campaign.
His staunch opposition to both undocumented and documented immigration is closely akin to his staunch opposition to social welfare provisions for American citizens. Within an article called “Immigration and the [social] Welfare State,” Dr. Paul stated that “Our current [social] welfare system promotes illegal immigration by discouraging citizens from taking low-paying jobs.” So is it any wonder that Ron Paul so eagerly crossed a picket line during his 2008 presidential campaign? (Not at all surprisingly, Dr. Paul has yet to speak out against corporate welfare. Imagine that.)
To be sure, Dr. Ron Paul is nothing more than a proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing. He is not a populist and he does not have your best interest in mind. He is aligned with and indeed encourages some of the most reactionary and thus capitalist class-serving forces within Americn society. He is pro-capitalist class, anti-working class, vehemently anti-choice and a bigot who is devoid of the courage to admit to it.
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American says...
True capitalist class is Pure-Working class.
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avbornbred says...
The problem with Ron Paul and his idea of foreign policy, is it will fail, not only the USA, but many of our allies.
What would happen to our relationships with South Korea, Germany including Western Europe. What would happen with Japan with Chinas growing military and being near North Korea.
Becoming an islolationist country will fail and is dangerous. I agree, it would be great for Western Europe to take more of the responsibility of defending itself, but many of these socialistic countries exist behind the strength of the USA being on their front lines.
Abandoning our allies could even hurt any foreign trade.
In a perfect world, we could pull all of our troops home, have all our energy needs created in the USA, and entitlement would stop. The problem is, none of those are likely to happen.
Of all the candidates running, including Obama, Ron Paul rates a slim notch above Obama. I would vote for him over Obama, but that is about as far as it would go.
I vote for George Washington.
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avbornbred says...
Holy Cow CYBERGUY, I agreed with about 90% of what you just wrote. Lets have a toast!
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avbornbred says...
I will admit that President Obama has a stronger foreign policy that Ron Paul’s would be. At least Obama has a track record of keeping GITMO opening, and following the Bush Doctrine in regards to hunting down and killing terrorist, like Bin Laden and Awlaki. Paul would of rather had Awlaki tried in a court of law, a man who promised death to Americans and American interests.
In the world, Ron Paul would make Jimmy Carter look like Genghis Khan. Ron Paul would look like the Easter Bunny preparing to fight a Kodiak Bear.
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Grumpy says...
Gee, it’s so unfair that we have to cooperate with our fellow human beings to get what we want/ need, isn’t it?
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American says...
South Korea, Germany and the rest of Europe will realize that the U.S. is IN FACT, the strength, or at least a major contributor to each and every one of those countries’ interests.
Right now, they take our welfare for granted.
The realization of our security, prosperity (our foreign aid contributions), and our social freedoms (what we have left, anyway) is an asset they would be begging for when we restrict our supply of these national products. The demand for our help will increase.
This will only help us in our trading negotiations when it comes to resources such as oil.
The whole idea is that we are in need of this resource, hence, the Neo-Conservative ideology of middle-eastern trading/resource dominance through force because of the belief that free-trade cannot be acheived without it.
And Dr. Paul is the only one who has been explaining and teaching us that CORPORATE WELFARE = FASCISM.
I have not heard this from anybody else. Everybody else is for the status-quo i.e. BIG GOVERNMENT. BOND ISSUERS. MONEY PRINTERS. WELFARE STATISTS. MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEXES.
Name one other politician who gives it to us straight.
And those of you that believe he is actually a bigot, then you should rethink your ideas of the ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.
When his policies do nothing but help to equalize the system for all people regardless of race, religion etc., through LIBERTY, you can only hold yourself ignorant to what TRUE FREEDOM can do to bring us ALL together. KEEP TRYING TO SEPARATE US. YOU WILL BE NOTICED FOR THE PERSON YOU ARE.
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American says...
avbornbred + cybertariat = fox + cnn/nbc
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American says...
ron paul + presidency = americans + prosperity
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avbornbred says...
American: You could be right in a perfect world. Paul’s message is meant for that, a perfect world. Paul would weaken our country and make us more vulnerable to threats. I too wish for a perfect world, but it is only a pipe dream.
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American says...
No, a perfect world is NOT what you get in a Free Market. In a Free Market, you get credit where credit is deserved.
A perfect world is what socialist/communists loathe for.
Ron Paul simply asks to be in a fair system with free trade, sound money, civil liberties and PEACE.
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American says...
avbornbred, if you DO in fact wish for a perfect world, I would instead offer the idea of prayer to help you in your search for inner peace.
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avbornbred says...
You are correct in regards to Free Trade. Not in Foreign Policy.
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American says...
Not in Foreign Policy?? Is that right?? Before I lay into the flawed idea of war, let me ask you…Do you support our troops? Do you believe they have any credible say in where our country’s foreign policies should look like? Now that you have thought of those answers…let me ask you if you have any yellow ribbons on any of your cars, or any “Support Our Troops” swag?
Now, do you believe in the “swag” type of support for our troops, or do you believe in actually listening to what our soldiers are telling us….Now, just watch this, and tell me which side of American Citizenry you choose to work with, the establishment like CNN….or this guy??? Food For Thought.
American says...
EH, F*** It, lets talk about Romney, so…..
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avbornbred says...
Hey, there are people in the military that voted for Obama. That news report is typical of CNN, someone pulled the plug. It is also not the job of the military to dictate politics, and this soldier could have created an issue for himself, although given the right to vote, active military members are not allowed to publicly display an opinion.
Even under W. Bush, soldiers had to remove writings on their tanks with Bush’s name written on them. Politics go that far. A military members loyalty goes to the standing president until it is time to vote.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Remember that Dr. Ron Paul is a veteran who served his country and understand the needs of the necessity of having a strong military but one that acts on provocation and not the corperate interests.
His immigration grade is D- according to numbersusa.com so unlike the cyberidiot he isn’t anti immigration he just wants to see americans employed.
The State Dept. is issuing 100,000 J-1 visas where teenagers from other nations can come here and work, displacing our own youth from being employed.
If we can’t have Ron Paul I am reconsidering voting for Romney, but he is just another stooge of big business.
Rick I hate Gays who was 8 votes away from top place in Iowa’s race would be even worse as president. Newt the fruit is not only a stooge but a scumbag to boot, a bigger flip flopper than Romney.
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American says...
I’m sorry. A military members’ loyalty goes to THE CONSTITUTION, NOT THE STANDING PRESIDENT!!!
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American says...
LOL CAGY…Although, if Ron Paul isn’t the nominee, I will NOT VOTE!! The only time I’ve ever voted was in this last TeaParty2010 vote. Hardly did any good being that I am currently living in SFV, California, but I have a little pride in my small voting record, and NOT voting, is in my lonely opinion the same as a VOTE.
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American says...
I take that back, if the Republicans dont nominate hime, I will vote him in as a write in or third party candidate, even though I know it will probably be (in effect) a vote to keep Obama in, but I feel it is necessary in order to fix the GOP, and make them realize the ROOTS they should be defending, NOT the ESTABLISHMENTARIANS.
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avbornbred says...
Yep, our choices are not the best. But in these days, who wants to live through the accusations brought on by the liberal sided media, Gloria the Bitch I have never been kissed Allred.
Qualified people are staying away fearing old skeletons might be exposed while Dems get a free ride. It is not an even playing field. Even for Ron Paul.
If Paul had won the Iowa Caucus, I am sure the media would be attacking him. But then again, I don’t think Paul stands up for GOP standards. Obama would love Paul to win the GOP because Paul would not be able to rally the base.
As for Romney, he is cut out of the old school GOP manual. Santorum fits the Right side of the GOP better than Paul. Newt has to many past issues but has experience.
The GOP has a lot of questions. I like the ticket of Rubio and West.
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Cagy Wolf says...
I would like to see Ron Paul and Allen West on a ticket.
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mvrwc says...
yep. ron paul is certifiably crazy.
and very dangerous.
he doesn’t understand other nations/groups hate us because we are rich and free.
that’s why we need more gub-mnt’ like NDAA, TSA and the “patriot” act.
to take away our freedoms.
this way, the terrorists have less reason to hate us.
this policy direction started by bush II and carried forward and expanded under bush III, i mean, obama, is working well.
you troublemakers need to shut the F up and know your place.
just remember and repeat:
ron paul is crazy.
if ron paul wins iowa, iowa doesn’t matter.
if ron paul wins new hampshire, new hampshire doesn’t matter.
ron paul has ceiling.
ron paul will NEVER get the nomination.
ron paul will NEVER be elected pres.
ron paul is dangerous.
the constitution is dangerous.
the bill of rights is dangerous.
the terrorists hate us beacause we are (were) free and rich
submit and obey
left right left right
msnbc fox news msnbc fox news
iran is a threat to the united states.
iran hates the united states because we are (were) rich and free
if they make a nuclear warhead they will place it atop one of their intercontinental ballistic missiles and immediately launch it at the united states
muslims are bad
muslims hate the united states because we are (were) rich and free
war is good
invade and occupy
bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran
newt gingrich is not a chicken hawk
thank you for your time
roxi says...
@ mvrwc & american : Please explain the economic theories of Ludwig Heinrich Edler von Mises, and Lew Rockwell, and how they’ve influenced Ron Paul’s economic plans for this country.
Ron Paul has stated that we all become “Austrians”.
Considering how Swartzenegger tanked the CA economy, and is Austrian – should voters ‘connect the dots’?
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Cybertariat says...
Yes, we’ve all “become Austrians” in the sense that the deregulation of the banking industry that led to this latest crisis in capitalist production was rooted in so-called Libertarianism or, far more to the point, laissez-faire capitalism that was first promoted by the Austro-Hungarian Ludwig von Mises. Yes, all of us – all of us workers – are now sharing the sort of misery that Argentine workers, Chilean workers, Bolivian workers, Russian workers and, but of course, Iraqi workers have experienced in the wake of the collective wet dreams of Ludwig von Mises, Milton Friedman and others having come true – of unfettered capitalism being unleashed upon various working classes.
Although the American working class has thus far only been exposed to what can be described as Milton Friedman’s “‘shock therapy’ light” (as manifested by the Clinton administration’s deregulation of the banking industry and the Bush administration’s treatment of post-Katrina New Orleans), it is nonetheless indicative of the type of “planned misery” (Friedman) that a fully deregulated capitalist society holds for workers.
In speaking with many Libertarians over the years, however, I have encountered a rather astonishing level of ignorance of the fact that their beloved “Libertarianism”/laissez-faire capitalism has in fact already been instituted to one degree or another within all of the aforementioned societies and at great cost to the host working classes. So it is my belief that, were Americans aware of the extreme social havoc that has been brought about in Argentina, Chile, Bolivia, Russia, and Iraq as a result of this alleged Libertarianism, they would quickly turn their backs to the likes of Dr. Ron Paul.
Good day.
Persevere.
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roxi says...
True, and thanks for elaborating on this, Guy. Like you say, these theories are actually being exercised in this country, which has basically eliminated the so-called ‘middle class’, which in actuality WAS the basis of American Industrial and Economic success – which no longer EXISTS.
NEXT to be axed, and STOLEN are the famously phrased ENTITLEMENT program$, to which workers of this nation poured their hard earned CASH into, to establish social safety-nets for all.
Those who support this economic collapse of our once EQUAL economic status as a nation are busy destroying Unions, and race-baiting one American against another in the guise of “free-loading-poor-people”. Those who support this hatred do not realize that they too are on the fast-track to beggar status.
Deregulated capitalist Corporations basically keep all the profits, as they have become the Banks. They delve out the crumbs in a faux illusion of minimum wage jobs.
Right, I wonder if these voters even know what they’re advocating?
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American says...
I look at the Austrian school as the traditional “old school” economics where our race (human race) began to derive a sense of self-sustaining through creation and sale of goods and/or services in order to survive and progress. In other words, beginning business.
These efforts needed a form of “value storage” or “money”. This way, a family who took proper care of and/or created food, clothing, materials for use, etc. in order to exchange their products/services for something in return.
This is where gold comes into play. Gold has always held a value of worth. The market in the beginning wasn’t made up of traders/brokers or even currency exchanges. It was pure barter. Gold has emerged throughout history as some of the finest storage of values because of its restrictions.
What I mean by restrictions is that, in contrast with paper money, gold cannot be printed or artificially manipulated as much as other “stores of value” (money).
This is just my little rundown of what I believe is the rooted economic platform the Mises Institute and other economic institutions like it generate from. It is simple. It is easy. It is for the poor working class.
Those who are control of a paper dollar inherently have the ability to print more capital to inject into their friends/associates organizations to keep afloat a debt-ridden system.
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American says...
This system we are in is EXACTLY what happened in Argentina and Chile. My Dad was born in Argentina, and my grandfather still explains all about the inflation that was rampant in South America.
Austrian economics is the REAL CAPITALISTS.
THE U.S. IS NOT IN A REAL CAPITALIST SYSTEM.
A REAL CAPITALIST SYSTEM WORKS FOR THE WORKER!!!
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American says...
INFLATION COMES FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE!!!
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American says...
I suggest you all do some research on ECONOMICS instead of things like SOCIAL JUSTICE. YOU WILL LEARN HOW TO DERIVE SOCIAL JUSTICE THROUGH PROPER ECONOMIC REALITIES SUCH AS THE AUSTRIAN SCHOOL IF ECONOMICS!!!!
DOWN WITH THE MONEY-PRINTING, DEBT-FUELED, CORRUPTED DEBT PYRAMIDING FRAUDSTER KEYNESIANS!!!!
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American says...
TRUE CAPITALISM DOES NOT HAVE A CENTRAL BANK!!! WE ARE NOT CAPITALISTS. WE ARE FASCISTS FUELED BY THE REPUBLICANS AND DEFENDED BY THE DEMOCRATS. I IMPLORE YOU TO DO SOME STUDYING OF THE AUSTRIAN SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS. IT FREES YOU!!!
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American says...
MVRWC…..GREAT VIDEO…I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW HIS SIMPLE OBSERVATIONS OF OUR COUNTRY GOES IGNORED!!!
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American says...
OK…mvrwc, I got this video from the last one you posted…this explains why THE FED is the root of all our problems, and why the socialists blame capitalists for the problems. What they don’t realize is that we are ACTUALLY socialists in capitalist disguise (fascists) and when we get in trouble, they blame capitalism.
This needs to be understood. Here is a good example of why…..
Cagy Wolf says...
OKAY had to say something since none of the Einsteins have stood up and debated why the middle east (islam) hates america. Read Norman Finklestein’s book “The Holocaust Industry”, in his book which refutes the book “From Time Immortal” facts about the how the Jews have invaded and occuplied Palistine and took the land from the Palistinians.
I mentioned this before but didn’t go into great detail. I have admire Finklestein for the fact that Finklestein has spoken up that what Isreal has done with the approval of the USA is suppress the Palistine people.
If you look at the world maps previous to 1948 you’ll see that there isn’t an Isreal, the land was all Palistine until 1948 where the terrorists Jews (as they were known then) bombed relentlessly the Britist til the Britist left.
This started in 1918 with the Bedford Declaration where jews were relocated to the middle east (palistine) when the britist learned what the jews were doing stopped any further immigration to the middle east.
And so from 1918 palistine has been invaded (much like we are invaded by mexican illegal aliens)by the jews that have gobbled up land. Isreal has been not only an oppresser but have invaded and attacked other middle eastern countries for whatever reasons at the momment, like when the jews bombed the Iraq reactor back in the 80’s or the West bank.
Its funny but the Palistine people are living in whats left of heir land occuplied by Isreal and have no rights as citizens. For this reason and this reason alone is the reason america and isreal is hated by islam.
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Cybertariat says...
American: “This system we are in is exactly what happened in Argentina and Chile.”
Actually, as outlined above, the American experience with the implementation of Libertarianian/laissez-faire-capitalist principles has yet to approximate that of Argentina, Chile and, certainly, Iraq. Nevertheless, the deregulation of the US banking system which led to this current and severe crisis in capitalist production as well as the disastrous results of the privatization which served as the political state’s “solution” to the devastation caused by hurricane Katrina were at least symptomatic of the hellish conditions faced by Argentine, Chilean and Iraqi workers.
American: “My dad was born in Argentina, and my grandfather still explains all about the inflation that was rampant in South America.”
Interesting. Would you mind telling us what it is that your grandfather has explained to you concerning the Argentina’s hyperinflation of the 1970s and 1980s, American?
Too, American, have any of your family members told you anything concerning the late Argentinian writer and investigative journalist, Rodolfo Walsh?
American: “Austrian economics is the real capitalism.”
Well, yes, in the sense that “Austrian economics” or “Chicago school economics” is descriptive of laissez-faire capitalism, savage capitalism or pure capitalism, so-called Austrian economics is indeed real capitalism.
American: “The US is not a real capitalist system.”
If one’s definition of “a real capitalist system” has to do with laissez-faire or unfettered and thus unregulated capitalism, then, yes, the US is not given to “real capitalism.” If, on the other hand, one is to recognize that capitalism is simply emblematic of the private ownership of any given society’s means of industrial/economic production (its factories, mines, mills, railroads, farm lands, etc.) irrespective of the degree to which that system of production is regulated, then it becomes quite clear that even regulated capitalism is “real capitalism.”
American: “A real capitalist system works for the worker!”
Very well. Yet, to me, such a statement serves to contradict America’s previous statement that “This system we are in is exactly what happened in Argentina and Chile” because what happened in Argentina and Chile during the 1970s and 1980s was what he or she – “America” – refers to as “real capitalism” which, unless “America’s” grandfather did not tell of the inflation that was greatly exacerbated by “real capitalism” and the death squads that served at the behest of real capitalists, definitely did not work for worker.
Finally, American, I’m wondering as to whether or not you would care to unpack your statement that “True capitalist class is pure working class.”
Thank you.
Good evening.
Persevere.
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American says...
The De-regulation of the banks is a smokescreen.
The Federal Reserve has NO regulations.
The only reason big corporations are able to sustain themselves is through government regulating up and coming possible competitors making it impossible for an idividual or small family to create products from their garage because it “is not safe” for society.
As I say again, CAPITALIST CLASS IS PURE WORKING CLASS!!!"
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American says...
LET ME WORK FROM MY GARAGE, HIRE MY NEPHEW AND BROTHER, ALLOW ME THE FREEDOM TO PAY SMALLER WAGES AND I WILL CREATE A BUSINESS FROM THE GROUND UP. NOW, YOU HAVE TO BE PERCHED ATOP A BEUROCRATIC PYRAMID TO EVEN HAVE A CHANCE TO COMPETE.
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roxi says...
Wasn’t Argentina taken over by Facists? Seems I remember something about this, and why Argentians of your Grandfather’s age – LEFT.
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roxi says...
Cyber: "…Finally, American, I’m wondering as to whether or not you would care to unpack your statement that “True capitalist class is pure working class.”
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Unpack? He’s ready to sell anything from his garage.
01/08/12 – 03:56 AM
American says…
The De-regulation of the banks is a smokescreen.
The Federal Reserve has NO regulations.
The only reason big corporations are able to sustain themselves is through government regulating up and coming possible competitors making it impossible for an idividual or small family to create products from their garage because it “is not safe” for society.
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TRUE. Corporations are on the Federal Gov’t TIT, via tax credits, registered in 3rd world countries for their PROFITS, and in the USA for their LOSSES, EQUAL no TAX OBLIGATIONS to the USA (taxpayers/citizens and GOP freeloaders) for taxes earned/paid.
“CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE, My friend” Willard says….as he bucks up another “Yard Sale” on a small business he and his cronies bought for a song, ran up the debt and sold for cheap.
What is the Libertarian ANSWER to asswhipes like Romney who wish to continue their rape on America?
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marino says...
roxi: “What is the Libertarian ANSWER to asswipes like Romney…?”
Uh, Obama!?
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American says...
roxi, YES, my Grandfather left for a few reasons, but that is one of the MAJOR reasons he did. He came here, started a jewelry business (thinking America was solid with the Gold Standard we were working with at the time)
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American says...
And, this business has been through all the rough times America has gone through ever since we came off. So, I really believe my little bit of wisdom that I hear coming from him is worth YEARS more than the education system that plagues our children today.
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American says...
roxi…Ron Paul said tonight in the debates…“We’re closing in on Mitt every single day…”, LOL…OH YEA, did you see the exchange between him and the chickenhawk Gingrich. CLASSIC!!!
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Cybertariat says...
All right, American, you have reiterated your claim that “Capitalist class is pure working class,” but, again, what exactly does that mean? Should it have something to do with your desire to bring about government deregulation to the point to where small scale capitalists would then be better able to compete with their giant counterparts, yes, the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), as an example, ultimately creates an unfair business environment which greatly favors large-scale manufacturers. In keeping with CPSC rules, toy manufactures, for example, must submit at least several hundred units of each commodity that they would like to be able to market by way of their first being approved for marketing by the CPSC.
Now of course for, say, the Mattel Corporation, such a requirement is of little to no consequence to its bottom line while having to turn over hundreds of units for testing by the CPSC is quite consequential if not outright devastating to the bottom lines of small-scale toy manufacturers. But it should be pointed out that these government policies did not come about as a result of left-wing politicians who were bent on destroying capitalism. Rather, they are the manifestation of laws that were put in place through government regulators who once worked for the giant corporations that they are now charged with “regulating.” As such, these regulations are quite purposely intended to keep small-scale manufacturers small if not to simply put them out of business. Simply put, these anti-competitive laws were instituted by capitalists themselves rather than by anything approximating socialism. After all, to remove all such ideological indoctrinations is to understand that capitalism does not concern the promotion of competition, it concerns the elimination of competition.
As for our American’s desire to run a business in his garage and to hire workers at sub-minimum-wage wages, do we really want for people to be able to operate, say, manufacturing facilities in their garages where toxic chemicals would likely be used? Do we as a society wish that large, commercial vehicles be operated within residential neighborhoods? And do we as a society really want workers working for less than the already inadequate amount of eight-dollars per hour? Has the example set by Wal-Mart and other giant retailers of making low-wage workers dependent upon government services not been enough proof of the fact that workers need be paid – at a minimum – much more than eight-dollars per hour? Is that sort of corporate welfare that is enjoyed by Wal-Mart and other gigantic corporations not enough for us to reject the “greed is good” Libertarianism that has long been advocated by people such as American?
Finally, American, would you care to – are you able to – respond to any of the specifics mentioned in my previous reply to your writings?
Thank you, sir or madam.
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avbornbred says...
Paul’s foreign policy is a pipe dream and the claims that his policy would make the world safer, pure fantasy.
If Paul had been president during either the Clinton or Bush years, 911 would still have happened.
My question is, what would Ron Paul’s response be to any terrorist attack on American soil be?
Another question; How would America strike back if all our troops are brought home from S. Korean, Japan, Germany, Iraq, Afghanistan, and where ever else we have bases?
Being an islotationist country is no longer an option. With the failed domestic border policies, and the events of the last 30 years with Muslim terrorist groups, we are still an easy target. Compile Paul’s policies with shutting down the Patriot Act, and Oh Boy, we are inviting violence. We would be easy pickens. With Paul’s view about no over seas conflict, what fear would our enemies have of being hit be, they would have no fears.
Paul’s policy is dangerous and a paper mache wall of defense. Our enemies would welcome Paul into the White House.
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If Paul was to get elected, I could see bi-partican opposition to his forgein policy. He would get support from the hardcore Paul supporters and the far left.
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OK, First Cybertariat…I agree with you that leftists weren’t the ONLY reason these beurocratic entities are enthrowned with an authority that supersedes any rational, but the left has done NOTHING to stop it. In fact, they embrace it with open arms once they are in the drivers’ seat. And TRUE CAPITALIST DON’T PUT THESE INTO PLACE. THEY (IN MY BOOK) ARE NOW FASCISTS!!!
Second, If I were to start a business in my garage, and I owned say, 10 acres, had proper disposal receipts and so on to prove I am being responsible, (even though I still should be considered innocent until proven guilty), then there should be NO PROBLEM. Only problem would be to those suits that are out of a job, holding their d*cjk in one hand and their degree in the other.
And as to the minimum wage…if we had a strong currency, then a dollar would still be able to pay for a families nourishment (food) for a day, houses would be much cheaper, college tuition would be slashed, energy and water will be used in proper proportional use. Storage and sustainability would be fantastically encouraged.
If we are to embrace what Ron Paul says, it will work for the BEST!!! but it must be done with each complimentary part in order to sustain itself…you can’t get rid of minimum wages with a constantly inflating system and a fiat currency.
If our dollar was at least in some ways backed by gold, we will have a lot less volatility in the market, our currency would be sound, and competition in the marketplace will continually bring down prices of goods, instead of this inflationary state we are in now
…as for YOU avbornbred…LOL…this blogging stuff is kinda fun sometimes…LOL….here is a song that will explain to you in Ron Paul’s own words how the CHICKENHAWK mentality is what is killing our country and how TRUE HEROES AND BRAVE CITIZENS will fight a war…listen to it all the way through.
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a paper mache defense? Are you saying that the soldiers we would bring back from around the world are weak? Are you saying they wouldn’t be able to protect us Oh, let me guess, the eye in the sky will do it, right???
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American: Of course not. The policy would be a weak one and it would not offer us any more security.
The phrase we have all heard about fighting our enemies in Afghanistan of fighting them here. We know how they fight, look at 911. Taking the fight to the enemy is always the smarter strategy. Letting them rebuild and become strong again will increase the chances for an attack here. Killing their leadership, Bin Laden, and Awlaki was the smart play, Paul did not think so.
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He didn’t think it was done legislatively and constitutionally correct. We continue a failed policy that will inevitably turn its ugly head towards us, and OUR GOVERNMENT will be the ones bringing the fight TO US HERE. LOOK AT THE TSA. It’s not us.
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In actuality, American, those who work against the interests of corporations and thus capitalists – be they politicians or what have you – are anything but what you characterized as being fascists, for despite what anti-intellectual, self-serving entertainers such as Rush Limbaugh often bellow, fascism is simply the confluence of corporate and governmental power. Ergo, it is those in the congress who promote the interests of capitalists to the detriment of workers and even petty capitalists who behave in a fascistic manner. Moreover, like much of the rest of today’s legislation, many of the unfair consumer safety laws discussed within my previous post were actually written by corporate lobbyists and are quite often enforced by Consumer Product Safety Commission officials who once worked for the very companies they are now charged with regulating. This, then, although it does not begin to compare to Germany’s Nazis nor to Italy’s fascists of the 1920s and 1930s, is descriptive of the very essence of fascism. (A recent and visual manifestation of this “fascism light” is the fact that officials from British Petroleum (PB) were not only allowed to board Coast Guard ships in the Gulf of Mexico in the wake of BP’s recent crude oil disaster, but so too were these officials allowed to command said ships as well as to control media access to the affected area; a quintessential example of the confluence of corporate and governmental power that [is] fascism.)
As for your desire to operate a business from your garage, American; were you to have control over ten acres of land, and if that land were properly zoned for the type of business who would be engaged in, then, yes, you could operate that business within a garage. Otherwise, no, you could not do so and such a restriction would have absolutely nothing to do with fascism but, rather, with the part of the social contract having to do with the best interests of your neighbors (i.e., their health and general well-being).
Respecting your desire for a strong currency which you believe would serve to lower the cost of most everything thereby justifying the elimination of minimum wage laws, that would be nice – but that is not ever going to happen. Under the capitalist system of production, workers exercise little to no amount of control over economic policies. Therefore, we are compelled to face the economic realities that stand before us. So unless you are fond of the idea of an ever-growing number of workers being dependent upon governmental services because their employers refuse to pay them so much as a “living wage,” which is something that stands at the very core of corporate welfare, then I believe it to be in your best interest to support the adoption of an even higher minimum wage – perhaps even a (much) higher minimum wage.
Finally, American, will you please delineate what it is that you mean when you write “Capitalist class is pure working class”? With all respect due you, sir or madam, I am beginning to assume that you yourself have no idea as to what you’re talking about; that you are a very young person who is simply repeating the rhetoric of the adults in your life as well as perhaps that of the aforementioned anti-intellectual, self-serving entertainers.
Good day.
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Cagy Wolf says...
More of marsh’s usual crap trap crap,if america is so bad move up to canada or better yet go live in mexico you’ll really be loved there for your wit (witless) and your peter puffing ways will go over great with all the future illegal aliens there you met.
Marsh you have to be either the most uneducated person I have ever met or just plain as crazy as a bed bug in a hot frying pan. You run around in circles just like a bed bug in a hot pan, senseless and selfish.
Come on big boy tell us all about your new “bride”, you never did us what his name is. Don’t let down your pals, we all have inquiring minds here yet it seems I am the only one brave enough and smart enough to call you out for all the nonsense you write and or plagerize.
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Any further thoughts, American, any at all?
Good evening.
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avbornbred says...
I understand American’s comments about Capitalist are pure working class, to mean what he said. The working class are capitalist, with everyone tyring to make a buck, earn a living, and striving to get ahead. It does not always happen to everyone, but to some, they achieve success by working hard and becoming rich. Unless a fortune in passed down to you, you can’t get rich unless you work harder than other people.
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avbornbred: “I understand American’s comment about ‘Capitalist being pure working class’ to mean what he said: Workers are capitalists; with everyone trying to make a buck, earn a living and striving to get ahead [sic].”
First of all, what American wrote was “Capitalist class is pure working class.” (Emphasis mine.) The clear difference being the machinations of class interests and those of individuals which are never synonymous. Be that as it may, the contention that workers are capitalists due to their “trying to make a buck, earn a living and get ahead” is, with all due respect to avbornbred, perfectly preposterous, for a capitalist is “a person who has capital; owner of [productive] wealth used in business.” –Webster’s New World Dictionary. Capitalists – the individual members of the infinitesimal capitalist class – do not make their living by punching a time clock or otherwise working for a wage or a salary. They – capitalists – make their living from owning significant amounts of the productive properties that are operated by workers in service to capitalists. In short, capitalists do not work simply because they do not have to work while workers are compelled to work – to sell their labor power and/or their intellectual power to one capitalist master or the other or face certain starvation.
Ergo, beyond our all being human beings, workers share absolutely nothing in common with capitalists. Despite our American’s and now avbornbred’s “clever” wording, the socioeconomic interests of workers – including those of American and avbornbred – are diametrically opposed to the socioeconomic interests of capitalists (e.g., the DuPonts, the Carnegies, the Melons, the Rothschilds, the Gates, the Waltons, etc.). To suggest otherwise is to reveal oneself a willing victim of capitalist indoctrination.
Avbornbred: It does not always happen to everyone – but to some; they achieve success by working hard and becoming rich.”
That sort of nonsense is reminiscent of the day on which a woman from Texas told George W. Bush of here having to hold down three jobs, simultaneously, in order to support herself and her family. In response, the idiot president quipped “That’s wonderful. That is uniquely American.”
The simple fact of the matter, avbornbred, is that, under capitalism, the vast majority of workers do not “get ahead” regardless of how hard they work. With the lion’s share of the economic wealth that we workers produce throughout the course of our working lives being stolen from us by our respective capitalist masters through a system of bourgeois legality, an extremely large portion of us are barely able to “tread water,” let alone “get ahead” – to “become rich.”
avbornbred: “Unless a fortune is passed down to you, you can’t get rich unless you work harder than other people.”
Yes, with few exceptions (i.e., Bill Gates), the members of the tiny capitalist class inherited “their” wealth; wealth/surplus value that has been accumulated through the collective toil of hundreds of millions of workers for several generations if not hundreds of years.
“Capitalist class is pure working class.” What a goddamned joke!
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avbornbred says...
The vast majority of workers, who plan, save, and who do not live beyond their means, move on to the next life, retirement.
Most successful people, start at the bottom and work up the ladder. Even those who climb the ladder do not always succeed, and some fall very hard, while others keep going. Capitalism is not about everyone making it all the way to the top. The same goes for socialism. The big difference is in capitalism, one can work hard and can expect the opportunity to move up. In Socialism, only the chosen few are allowed to enjoy wealth, the workers never have the opportunity to do anything but be on par with everyone else.
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01/11/12 – 05:07 PM
avbornbred says…
“In Socialism, only the chosen few are allowed to enjoy wealth, the workers never have the opportunity to do anything but be on par with everyone else. "
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I sense an underlying resentment for Unions, and Union structure with this statement.
Should a Union worker reach a status beyond Journeyman, and feel that they are worth more per hour than what is structured for them to be paid – they are FREE to leave the Union and start their own business. There is nothing holding them back from doing this.
Sure, they’ll have to give up their Pension, and Annuity, should that be available – but in this dream-world mantra of: “Wealth comes to all who work hard” — why should that matter?!
If the person has the qualifications and experience to make mo’ money, breaks out on their own and it doesn’t work out – who’s to blame?
The person who set out on their own.
They made the choice, invested in their future, only to find out that with COMPETITION in the free market, and without the security of group-based representation – they’re on their own.
Why should they be surprised when they find out that PRIVATE INDUSTRY does not, and WILL NOT pay them what their worth?
surprise, surprise.
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YOU SAY "including those of American and avbornbred – are diametrically opposed to the socioeconomic interests of capitalists (e.g., the DuPonts, the Carnegies, the Melons, the Rothschilds, the Gates, the Waltons, etc.). "
Let me ask why you put these groups/people in the same category? These are examples of RICH people. There are rich CAPITALISTS and richy FASCISTS. The industry/banking entities that use THE LAW OF THE LAND to manipulate market interests in order to better serve their monopolies ARE NOT CAPITALISTS. You seem to have the ENVIOUS attitude that ALL or MOST wealth is created by CAPITALISTS. It is not. FASCISTS have enjoyed the fruits of the peoples’ labor in order to advance their own interests.
I’m afraid we will have to agree to disagree until you re-define your definition of what a TRUE CAPITALIST really is.
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American says...
Sorry, let me correct myself…the wealth IS created by capitalists (workers selling the sweat from their brow, or the intellect from their brains) but GATHERED THROUGH TAXATION by GOVERNMENT and passed through to FASCISTS through legislation.
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American says...
roxi…avbornbred is right. Socialism is an attempt to make everything and everyone equal, and ON PAPER is the most EQUAL AND UTOPIAN system one can study. The difference is that it completely misses the biggest factor in society. Psychology. Socialism brings everyone down because nobody wants to be treated unfairly and if Joe the Neighbor is barely working but getting the same pay as you are, you will naturally decrease your production because JOE gets the same either way.
Capitalism embraces humanity by giving the OPPORTUNITY to succeed. It doesn’t guarantee anything but the opportunity. And THAT (opportunity) is what we are being robbed of by this big government welfare state we have.
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American says...
Unions are great when they collectively bargain, but once legislation becomes part of the negotiations, these “workers” become corrupt and FASCISM flows through the union and ends up in the toilet.
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American says...
Again, I will say, until you CYBER decide to decipher the difference between fascism and capitalism, I will remain, and you will eventually realize that CAPITALIST CLASS IS PURE WORKING CLASS.
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roxi says...
@American: And, like I said, if a Union workers doesn’t like the set-up, they can leave the Union and work for the private sector, or start their own business.
I’m surprised you haven’t changed capitalism to Economic Freedom yet. Get with the program, didn’t get the memo from FIXED News?!
01/13/12 – 05:22 AM
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“You seem to have the ENVIOUS attitude that ALL or MOST wealth is created by CAPITALISTS…”
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“ENVIOUS” – Right out of the Frank Lutz FIXED News script – “Capitalism doesn’t POLL well” he says….Time to reBrand it: “Economic Freedom”
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American says...
TOUCHE,
I don’t know how well it will fly, but if that’s what you want to call it, I’m all for it.
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American says...
As long as your “economic freedom” is coupled with a sound currency, we will thrive (middle class persons/workers).
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roxi says...
@American: Do you know what you’re talking about? You sound like the remnents of The Sound and the Fury/Faulkner, which described the last gasp of Aristocratic Southern Society who’s paper money was worthless, their slaves are gone, and the only answer to survival of the family’s fortune is GOLD!
….“the way to dusty death.” !!
Curious, is the similarities – I have to say, to the fall of Confederate money, which led to the Gold Standard. How convenient it was, to deem Confederate money worthless for the NORTH!!
Have you thought this out, as to how people would convert their dollars to gold, or is this just something you pulled out of your arse?
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American says...
@roxi…Yes, I do know what I’m talking about. I’ve never heard of that Sound and the Fury, but I can explain what I think of what happened by your short explanation.
If the southern states tried to create and use their own currency (which sounds like the real reason they would have gone to war by the way) then a loss of the war would have replaced any money they were using with what the North was using. This means that if a farmer who was saving money in a bank or a sock in his drawer at the time of the end of the war, then this paper money would be deemed worthless, hence the need for gold as a last resort of value for trade.
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avbornbred says...
Roxi learned a new word this week, “Bain.” I can’t wait to be called a Bain-con or Con-Bain, Neo Bain Con, Repubtard Bain Capitalist pig.
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American says...
This would also explain the reasons for using gold as the standard. If the productive states were in the south, then their money or “store of value” would be the dominant source of exchange medium, simply because of the inherent value of this medium that is being used as a trade by the producers of whatever product it is they are creating. And if the producers of goods & services decided to use gold as the medium, then the only logical means of trade would be to use this as the medium standard of currency for the country.
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roxi says...
No, AVBB, you’re just a Union Worm, suck-ass personified.
American, read Faulkner’s Sound & the Fury….a little history wouldn’t hurt, along with the insanity and pain that goes with poverty.
You say that the Confederate States printed their own money, and lost the war – therefore their currency was invalid.
Compare that to what could happen in this country, or what’s happened in Greece, Italy, Ireland and Spain, and tell me just HOW you figure our now so-called worthless currency should be converted to GOLD.
You protest WTO, the Fed and International banking, yet have succumbed to advocating an international currency. Go figure.
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roxi says...
01/14/12 – 03:32 AM
American says…
This would also explain the reasons for using gold as the standard. If the productive states were in the south, then their money or “store of value” would be the dominant source of exchange medium, simply because of the inherent value of this medium that is being used as a trade by the producers of whatever product it is they are creating.
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BTW, PLEASE, please educate yourself and read some history.
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American says...
@roxi…you claim i said “You say that the Confederate States printed their own money, and lost the war – therefore their currency was invalid”. this is wrong, i just assumed that’s what happened, Im not too familiar with it, but that was just an assumption as to what happened.
You can’t really compare it to our country because that was an internal conflict. Our dollar will always be American, its just the purchasing power (strength) of our dollar that is weakened by our money printing.
ALSO…Gold is NOT an international currency…it is the MARKETS real currency. International banking would be GREAT if gold was standard. There wouldnt be any BANKING CONGLOMERATES with the power to artifically create more money (gold) because a printing press cannot create more gold. International trade and commerce is ALWAYS a good thing as long as it is being facilitated with a stable currency.
Paper money and fractional reserve banking is the problem we have with the international system as it is today
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American says...
BTW, PLEASE, realize that there are all different types of histories and different opinions as to who what where when and why things happened in the past.
PLEASE, think for yourself and study some common sense.
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roxi says...
01/14/12 – 05:26 AM
American says…
“…Paper money and fractional reserve banking is the problem we have with the international system as it is today”
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Spoken like a true Oligarch – congrats.
Just stop printing the people’s MONEY!! What a great idea!!! We can see how well it worked in Greece – they’re just loving their AUSTERITY measures, and not having ANY CONTROL over their own lives!
“…And here’s the “brilliance” of the oligarchs. As the “hamster wheels” (as it were) are spun faster and faster, the workers try to keep up. Those who fall off the wheel, unable to keep up with the oppression and exploitation, then fall into poverty, and are quickly marginalized, stripped from any source of power, and ghettoized.
The dwindling middle class, seeing the wretched consequences of poverty are then intimidated and fearful, and do everything they can to stay on the wheel, picking up the pace mandated by the increasingly oppressive system.
But the system is rigged, which results in the inexorable rate increase of poverty and/or economic insecurity in the population…"
—-Why The Oligarchs Want to Ghettoize The Country
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Cagy Wolf says...
CYBERFAG, RUSH LIMBAUGH HAS FAR MORE INTELLIGENCE THEN YOU’LL EVER HAVE. RUSH AT LEAST HAS HAD THE BENEFIT OF A COLLEGE EDUCATION WHILE YOU A PUFFER READS ONLY HATE AMERICA PROPAGANDA.
I’LL GRANT THIS THOUGH YOU KNOW YOUR COMMNIST DRVEL OTHERWISE YOUR PRETTY DAMN DUMB IMBECILE. SO WHAT IS THE NAME OF YOUR “BRIDE”, COME ON YOU CAN TELL US HIS NAME. I PROMISE I WON’T LAUGH OR MAKE FUN OF HIM MUCH.
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American says...
roxi, are you saying printing money is good for the people???
Do some more research on inflation and what it does to the poor and middle class when their monopolized system of trade is being devalued in order to prop up failing entities.
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American says...
Ghettoizing the country is done by printing money.
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Austerity is necessary if the people don’t realize they have been lazy and expecting the government to give them everything.
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avbornbred says...
Liberals think the creation of money happens when it is printed and then handed out.
Real money is earned and grown through commerce, investments, and hard work.
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American says...
avbornbred…how hard is it to understand…why do people have such a hard time grasping that fact??
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avbornbred says...
Libs understand that it is wrong for some people to work hard and to earn a lot of money, while other people don’t work hard and don’t have much money. Those hard workers are called Capitalist, or Roxi’s word of the week, “Bain Capitalist.” Being good and becoming rich is bad.
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Cagy Wolf says...
WHY YOU GUYS EVEN DEBATE WITH IDIOTS LIKE ROXI AND MARSH IS BEYOND ME THEY ARE DYED IN WOOL RADICAL LEFT LOOONIES!!!!!!!!!!
YOU CAN HAVE A BETTER DISCUSSION WITH A BRIK WALL AND MAKE HEADWAY WITH A BRICK WALL, BUT NOT LEFTIST IDIOTS.
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No Spin says...
As frustrating as it is to read the drivel posted in here by those who are inspired by giving the lazy and inept everything for free while demonizing then successful, it has to be said..
They are entitled to their opinions and the constant, and childish assaults on them for expressing them is SO DAMN BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One would think those who choose terms like CyberFag, Idiots, Puffers. etc. are suffering from a mental disorder “or sumthin”
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No Spin says...
Cagy says:WHY YOU GUYS EVEN DEBATE WITH IDIOTS LIKE ROXI AND MARSH IS BEYOND ME
Yet CAGY does exactly that in here daily…
Seems odd to me..
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roxi says...
@Spin: I find it hilarious that these “posers” get into their “Tony Suprano” mode, and promote their AUSTERITY measures as The Word, complete with ‘the power of the Pope’ GUILT BY ASSOCIATION efforts to convince Americans that making LESS $$ is good, and that Prosperity for the one’s who stole the now-working-poor’s money is their God-Given Reight.
Yes, it’s odd – and boring to the hilt.
I’m waiting for the Great White Father, College-Educated-Limbaugh to finally sit on a “Panel of Experts” pundit show – WITHOUT A SCRIPT.
Now, that would be worth watching…….
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Cagy Wolf says...
No Spin I do not debate with the idiots, I insult them for their lack of common sense and intelligence. You cannot debate or reason with fools and the cretins nor fanatics, that pretty much sums it up.
At first I tried to be patient and forgiving, but after being called several foul names I gave up and use their own tactics against them and I am sure they don’t like it any better than I did.
The idiots made a choice and so they are stuck with me doing what little I can to educate them and failing that just insult the hell out of these pretenious retards.
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Cagy Wolf says...
While it may see odd to you No spin I found it also boring and yes they are entitled to their opinions. What they aren’t entitled to is free shots at me by calling me names that aren’t true. I am quite sure they don’t appreciate being called puffers or fags any more than I likedbeing called a liar,homophobe, racist or xenophobe.
No one likes to be insulted for whatever reason No Spin and I am sorry for the rest of you that “has” to read what I write.
May I make a suggestion?
If what I write offends you in any way, why not just not read what I write.Seems odd to me that if someone is offended by what others write, don’t FUCKING read what they write.
After all when I go to the library or bookstore I read what I want and only what I want. That is unless I am researching a subject to better understand the thinking of others.
In fact while I don’t call to watch shows that are orientated to the gay agenda, I have been open minded enough to listen to what the gays believe in.
I couldn’t care less what sexual orientation Gay Marsh has,but I do care when some uneducated communist piece of shit faggot insults me.
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Cagy Wolf says...
no Spin you see I am a old school, old fashion type of man. I believe we should take responsibility for our actions be they verbal or physical. So I am greatly offended when some lesser being has the audacity to trade insults with me when I choose to just write,I did not ask for a war but I don’t back down from one.
I learned that in the barrio of East Los Angeles, if you let them walk all over you, thats your fault.
So unless you keep your “opinions” to yourself when it regards me, exect to get some grief.
Everybody is free to think what they want, hell I don’t mind being called an asshole or son of a bitch, cause those decriptions would be accurate.
I do find it odd that an actor chooses to cross dress for a part, maybe your a latent homosexual and thereby take it personal when I desribe Gay Marsh as being a puffer. Don’t know, don’t care.
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No Spin says...
THE ABSOLUTE FUNNIEST COMMENT EVERY SCRIBED IN HERE:
Cagy Wolf says…
no Spin you see I am a old school, old fashion type of man. *I do find it odd that an actor chooses to cross dress for a part, maybe your a latent homosexual and thereby take it personal when I desribe Gay Marsh as being a puffer.
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LMAO!!!!! Funniest comment ever!! Thanks Cagy… I needed some hilarity..
BTW: Your absolute obsession with GAYNESS borders on insane…Give it a rest my friend… A man loving a man or woman loving a woman is NOT a big deal..GET OVER IT…
And FYI: See what the Apostles wore? Kinda “Dress Like” right “Dude?”… LMAO
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No Spin says...
And for the record, in case you had a question anyone reading this:
I LOVE a lot of men, dozens I can easily admit I love with all my heart.. AS A BROTHER or SON… I guess I should check with Cagy to see if that also makes me a puffer… If if does, I need to let my wife of 17 years know SOON….
Once again, thank you Cagy.. you sir, are a very funny man…
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No Spin says...
COME out of the CLOSET DAMN IT!!! According to Cagy, men dressing as women, are puffers .. So here is a list of all these puffers that NEED TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-dressing_in_film_and_television
Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, Robin Williams, Charlie Chaplin, Stan Laurel, Wallace Beary, etc..
COME ON BOYS, it is time to let the world KNOW!!!
LMAO
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Martel says...
Larry I must admit I cracked up also funny funny,Dustin Hoffman,Jack Lemmon,Don Knotts,Cary Grant,Three Stooges,And on and on
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Cagy Wolf says...
AGAIN EVERYONE MISSED THE POINT EXCEPT MAYBE MARTEL,SURE I LIKED SOME OF THE ACTORS AREN’T GAY WHO HAVE CROSS DRESSED FOR A PART ITS ALL PART OF THE CRAFT AND PROFESSION. HISTORICALLY MEN PLAYED WOMEN AS FAR BACK AS ANCIENT GREECE.
BUT I AM HAPPY IF I HAVE PROVIDED AMUSEMENT FOR ALL OF YOU, IT COMES TO MIND A OLD SAYING. SMALL THINGS AMUSE SMALL MINDS. AND SPEAKING OF SMALL MINDS I SEE THE CYBERFAGGOT HAS ANOTHER HATE AMERICA BLOG GOING ON.
MARSH TELL US AGAIN HOW CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE IN CHINA.CUBA,THE OLD USSR AND ANY OF THE OTHER COMMUNIST RUN COUNTRIES.
AND FOR THE RECORD, I PUFF ON CIGARETTES. MARSH POINTED OUT WHAT A DIRTY HABIT SMOKING CIGARETTES ARE AND I POINTED OUT HOW STERILE CIGARETTES ARE IN COMPARISON TO SMOKING (OR PUFFING) ON A PENIS.
I FIND IT AMAZING THAT THE EXTENT THAT MY COMMENTS ARE READ, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT IHAD SO MANY FANS. SO WITH THAT KIND OF ENCURAGEMENT I WILL CONTINUE TO DO MY BEST TO ENTERTAIN YOU ALL. I HAD PLANNED ON LEAVING AS I FIND THIS SITE TO BE LESS INTELLECTUALLY STIMULATING, FOR YOU TO SEE WHAT I MEAN ALL YOU HAD TO DO IS READ ONE OF MARSH’S BLOGS WHERE HE ENDLESSLY BLOVIATES NONSTOP ANTI AMERICA BOVINE EXCREMENT.
HELL IF I WAS ON A HONEYMOON MY TIME WOULD BE BETTER SPENT ON MORE ROMANTIC MOMMENTS.
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American says...
If we show the world that the American people have finally WOKEN UP to what these politicians have been doing, we can then make OUR OWN regime change. Ron Paul can put us on the right track….and who knows, maybe we can do what Donald Trump correctly says, and start PROPER NEGOTIATIONS when it comes to international commerce. Hey, maybe we can negotiate some cheaper oil, rather than forcing the producers to breed more and more hatred towards us.
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