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Wednesday, June 06 2012 - 02:04 AM
Wisconsin and AMERICA speak with a loud VOICE
GOP KICKS the Union BUTT n Wisconsin!!! The return of America to the people is moving forward!! GET ready for the Obama B/S machine to begin the babbling!!
God Bless America, God Bless Tom Walker and God Bless Rebecca Kleefisch!!!
marino says...
Four years ago, Conservatives were fed up with the actions of the GOP. They felt McCain wouldn’t be much better than Obama. Ppl gave Obama the nomination and a chance and things have gotten worse.
Many have jumped off the Yes-We-Can bullshit bandwagon and now it’s time for a change. Any change.
Every time some piece of shit admin gets into office we need to replace them asap. That goes for left or right, from President on down to mayor. Keep the garbage out or it will fester.
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No Spin says...
LIBS have no ability to speak without a script.. The “Stepford” party is speaking:
Tripp Wellde, State Director for OFA-Wisconsin, issued the following statement on the outcome of the contest:
“While tonight’s outcome was not what we had hoped for – no one can dispute the strong message sent to Governor Walker. Hundreds of thousands of Wisconsinites from all walks of life took a stand against the politics of division and against the flood of secret and corporate money spent on behalf of Scott Walker, which amounted to a massive spending gap of more than $31 million to $4 million.
Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz issued the following statement on the outcome of the recall contest:
“Despite the disappointing outcome of tonight’s election, there is no question that over the past year this recall effort sent a message to Scott Walker that his brand of divisive politics is offensive and wrong. Thousands of Wisconsinites mounted this effort in the face of a flood of out of state, secret and corporate special interest money– amounting to a massive $31 million war chest for Governor Walker to just $4 million on our side.
HILARIOUS!
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Cagy Wolf says...
Marino you are correct but states like california are done they are lost. Until there is a crack down on voter fraud and illegals voting nothing will get done.
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No Spin says...
Get ready to hear this bullshit ALL WEEK
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Cagy Wolf says...
DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz is just another communist traitor who lies every time she opens her pie hole up.
Scott Walker fixed what was wrong in Wisconsin and the unions and the democrazies went wild. I watched the news and it was funny, wish they had shown the crowd after Scott Walker’s recall failed.
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No Spin says...
Wasserman is a lap dog.. No original thought.. ONLY what she is told to say
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avbornbred says...
I have said many times that the Union leadership looks out for the Union leadership! Governor Walker showed union members a way to get out of unions without losing jobs. Many no longet having to pay union dues and watching their hard earned money go to causes they did not support.
The storming of the capital building in Madison pissed off the Average Joe’s. The Democrat senators fleeing the state to avoid a key vote also pissed off voters watching the Dems hide instead of performing their elected duties.
Walker wins! Lt. Gov wins, and 4 state GOP senators survive recall. A total Tea Party ass kicking of the Dems.
How about the impact of the Occupy crowds. Them Dems are on the wrong side of just sbout everything. I’ll let the Dems feel good about undermining the will of the voters with Prop 8. Thst is the only way they can win!
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avbornbred says...
THE DEFINATION OF HELL. BEING STUCK ON A DESERT ISLAND WITH DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ. COULD YOU IMAGINE THAT?
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Martel says...
avborn,here is a threesome for you Shultz Pelosi Boxer,God forbid
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avbornbred says...
MARTEL: YOU HAVE A SICK MIND. NO MAN SHOULD EVER HAVE TO THINK OF SUCH A THOUGHT!
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CMGINAV says...
The GOP is by far NOT representing the people! How funny it is to see Americans cheering on the destruction of other Americans livelihoods and calling it of the people. I do not agree with unions 100% of the time but they are the only lifeline/safety from corporations offering substandard wages. You WANT to see your country as a third world? You want our people impoverished? Will that make you feel bigger about yourself it more are beneath you? What a sham! Bet you have a support the troops sticker too huh? Yet you only support war and neo-cons and not the troops pick for president nor do you ask what they want. All you see is 2 choices and so you pick one of 2. There are many choices beyond what the media highlights.
First the teachers unions, then police and fire fighters, then utility workers and construction, then the rest on down the line. This is necessary to lower the American standard of living and is a central goal of the global elite!
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roxi says...
The GOP is the ‘white’ man’s party.
They relish in excluding Asian-American, Latino and Blacks (a given) from their ‘party’, but surely would consider inviting them over to clean their toilets.
Voices of the majority who are actively being disenfranchised by the Right and all their foreign money reflects an Oligarchy busy working on discouraging the vote.
Those who think it’s ‘ok’ for only a few to ‘qualify’ for the wealth of this nation def. hate our constitution which clearly states ‘rights for all’, and not ‘hoarding for the few’.
Since those who agree that the distribution of wealth should continue to be one-sided, they should put in servitude instead of building debtors prisons — to build higher and stronger walls around their gated communities, as they are indeed the minority.
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avbornbred says...
Gee! Look at Bush’s cabinet. Asian woman, Hispanic male, Black male, Black female .
The libs making BS comments again. Wisconsin was an eye opener when non union workers, who make far less than union workers do, unified under a Tea Party movement. Looks like corporate America and the little guy slammed the door on unions and entitlement. Sarah Palin said if unions want to survive, they need new leadership.
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avbornbred says...
GEE #2. More Lib BS. IN 2008, the libs did not complain about the millions Obama raised, far out raising the GOP. The libs thought that was a sign of the little guy uniting together. The Libs now crying because the Tea Party sent millions to the recall election, saying corporate America defeated the unions. Remember seeing national union leaders going to Madison when they “Occupied” the state capital, but that is OK for Libs.
Maybe Occupying places does not work! No one likes Occupations. Only bad things happen when people Occupy places. Look at history!
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Martel says...
I Agree with cmginev on the point of unions,But with what they were facing in wisconsin why did they loose.All the big money spent by the right did not help as most made there minds up in May.The other side is the greed of the unions auto makers making 75 an hour with that kind of income you might have to agree the unions have out lived there original purpose of protecting the worker.
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roxi says...
You’re now quoting Sarah Palin now AVbb?! That’s a laff. As she trots off to Norstrums for her Italian boots made in China, I’m sure she’s an authority on “Union” reorganizing.
New unions are setting up shop tho, reorganizing from existing ones. The divide is widening.
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roxi says...
Martel, considering that a large part of Union workers ‘paychecks’ goes to For Profit Health Insurance, Death Benefits, Pensions, etc – which are NOT included in Private Industry hourly wages; just how ‘good’ do private industry workers have it?
Btw, UAW took a huge cut in pay so that many could continue to work and support themselves without going on welfare, unemployment or food stamps.
The Right would prefer that they not work, at least for a couple of years, become “dependent” on the gov’t cash-cow, and then slam the door shut with their Ryan Plan.
The GOP has walked away from protecting the worker.
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roxi says...
06/06/12 – 04:06 PM
avbornbred says…
“…Maybe Occupying places does not work! No one likes Occupations. Only bad things happen when people Occupy places. Look at history! "
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Yet, you’re ok with the GOP now being occupied by Oligarchs. When your pension is cut in half in a similar hostel take-over, will you be singing the same tune?
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marino says...
UAW took a huge pay cut? They down to $50 per hr plus benefits?
Where can we send money?
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No Spin says...
For the LIBS who are following the Obama talking points memo about Walker Buying the election, Please feel free to explain the difference when you read these FACTS:
2008- Barack Obama raised roughly $750 million from donors, surpassing all of his White House opponents this year and also eclipsing the total amount of money raised by all of the presidential candidates combined in 2004.
2008 – McCain’s fundraising for the 2008 cycle was not terrible. The Arizona senator raised a respectable $238 million
Post-election campaign finance reports, filed by the candidates with the Federal Election Commission, reinforced the striking contrast between the amount of money Obama had at his disposal versus Republican rival John McCain.
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marino says...
Yes, and look at what that $750M got us.
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roxi says...
06/06/12 – 04:38 PM
marino says…
UAW took a huge pay cut? They down to $50 per hr plus benefits?
Where can we send money?
Maybe you should’ve gone into a different line of work, eh marino?
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roxi says...
06/06/12 – 04:42 PM
No Spin says…
2008- Barack Obama raised roughly $750 million from donors, surpassing all of his White House opponents this year and also eclipsing the total amount of money raised by all of the presidential candidates combined in 2004."
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Hardly a comparison to Karl Rove’s “Non-Profit”, tax-free ’Welfare for America" Super-Pacs, eh, Spin?
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Martel says...
roxi says The GOP has walked away from the workers,Amen. That has always been there plan.But auto workers do not merit 75 an hour that is the unions at there worst.
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Martel says...
Politico says Romney will raise 1 billion to defeat Obama
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CMGINAV says...
06/06/12 – 03:46 PM
roxi says…
The GOP is the ‘white’ man’s party.
Funny…Lincoln freed the slaves. It has morphed into what the media says it is or should be. It was never started as a “white mans” party. You think the GOP cares about color? They are globalists. They hate us all equally. The same dirty vaccines they shoot white people up with are being given to the blacks too roxi. It isn’t about race or nation or even intelligence level. It is about globalism and a plan that has been in the works for decades if not longer. The globalists work off of 10-20year blocks. They plan ahead that far.
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CMGINAV says...
Auto workers do deserve a living wage. Maybe 30-40 an hour. They certainly didn’t deserve to have Obama take our tax money to pay GM to ship their factory to China. That was the guy who cares about people! Imagine the ones who do not care and what they are capable of.
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Martel says...
S.S. YOU SAID A MOUTHFUL IMAGINE THE ONES WHO DO NOT CARE.AS YOU KNOW THEY ARE OUT THERE IN LARGE NUMBERS THEY ARE CALLED POLITICIANS
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marino says...
roxi gets delusional at times. But she always comes back.
There’s a much more even balance with Whites in both party’s then there are with blacks and others.
Democrats with their social programs and promises keep blacks and others on a tight leash thereby restricting their capabilities.
And Black Conservative is code for Uncle Tom.
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avbornbred says...
MARINO: well said! Pointing out over 90% of blacks are Dems just slammed the door on Roxi GOP whites claim. Very well said! Crystal clear.
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avbornbred says...
I love how race is always to blame in political debates. In Roxi’s mind, white people are evil for being Republicans. People who play the race card , often rely on entitlements.
For instance. The Federal Government fought the Civil War with one of the key issues being slavery. The United States won the war and the slaves were freed. There are blacks and libs today who want the Feds, meaning the American citizens, to pay reparations because somehow the blacks of today dserve it. Go figure. A liberal wsy of buying the votes of blacks and making them dependent on tbe Democratic party for the reparations payments.
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roxi says...
Hey AVbb, you never answered my question: “Yet, you’re ok with the GOP now being occupied by Oligarchs. When your pension is cut in half in a similar hostel take-over, will you be singing the same tune?”
How do you know you’re not next? After all, you only paid 1/2 into your pension, and the State of CA is broke. So, legally, you should only get half – it’s only fair….why should I foot the bill?
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roxi says...
06/06/12 – 07:12 PM
marino says…
roxi gets delusional at times. But she always comes back.
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Oh, how we all wish we could all be “original”; to think up our own thoughts and have those thoughts become FACTS before our eyes!
Guess there’s someone else out there who came up with these stats —> I’ll leave it up to the “Con-dum-whey believers” to sort it out:
“…Many of the numbers do point to Democratic ascendance. On one side of the equation, the Republican Party has effectively become the party of white America.
More than 90 percent of John McCain’s votes in 2008 came from white Americans. On the other side, the Democratic Party has largely won over the minority vote. In 2008 Barack Obama won 95 percent of the black vote, 67 percent of the Latino vote, and 62 percent of the Asian-American vote.
This pull toward the Democratic Party is not specific to Obama: in the 2010 Congressional elections, exit polls show that Democratic candidates garnered 91 percent of the black vote, 66 percent of the Latino vote and 59 percent of the Asian-American vote.
Putting together demographic trends with past performance, most observers and strategists say that Republican demise is all but inevitable."
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Actually, “minority voters”, who are NOW the majority, btw, have become “nonidentifiers” or “median voters”, you know – the ‘decline-to-states’.
Perhaps the 3rd Rail Party isn’t that far off guys. Load them muskets.
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avbornbred says...
Roxi: Answering your question. If my CALPERS pension is cut, yes I would be pissed. That is why I want California’s economy to surge ahead, something Libs are preventing.
California has everything!!!
1. One of the largest agricultural areas in the world, being hindered by liberal envioronmental groups depriving farms of water and preventing agricultural expansion.
2. The largest computer tech area, Silicon Valley, with companies leaving California because of regulations and taxes.
3. California WAS the home of numerous aircraft companies, many whom have left the state for states with less regulations.
4. The movie industry being forced out due to cost and regulations. A prime example was pointed out by another blogger that the movie, " Hatfields and McCoys" was filmed in Europe. Hollywood is being regulated out of Hollywood.
5. Liberals in California’s largest cities raising local taxes preventing economic growth with high cost of living.
6. Lancaster using a spy plane forcing millions to flee the Antelope Valley.
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avbornbred says...
Roxi: Am I a racist because I did not vite for the Socialist Obama? That is why I did not vote for him.
My first GOP pick this year was Herman Cain. I respect Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Rep. Alan West, JC Watts, and Joe Delaney. I guess these African Americans are not true African Americans because they overcame racial and economic barriers and rose to the top of their professions and courage.
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roxi says...
06/06/12 – 11:05 PM
avbornbred says…
Roxi: Answering your question. If my CALPERS pension is cut, yes I would be pissed. That is why I want California’s economy to surge ahead, something Libs are preventing.
California has everything!!!
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HA! Rah! Rah! Rah! Let’s strike up the band for Californeee! Maybee Brown is actually Walker in sheepskins AVbb – after all, we HAVE TO PAY OFF the deficit!
06/06/12 – 11:10 PM
avbornbred says…
“Roxi: Am I a racist because I did not vite for the Socialist Obama? (sic)”
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No, you’re not a racist because you did not “vite” for Obama, but you do represent the minority who didn’t, don’t you? What’s ‘vite’? Is it Con shorthand for ‘bite’ as in Vulture Capitalistic past times?
Btw, do you need some recipes for gruel? Am sure there’s some on the in-ter-net.
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Martel says...
avborn,No question the liberal dems ruined the greatest place on earth to live ,At one time.
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leonardpflemkin says...
@avbornbred – re: 6. Lancaster using a spy plane forcing millions to flee the Antelope Valley.
Cain’t blame them libber-uls for that one. Follow the $.
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Ray Cunneff says...
Not so fast, partner. Wisconsinites may have kept Scott Walker, but over two rounds of recalls they voted for a Democratic state Senate majority by electing Democrats John Lehman, Jen Shilling, and Jessica King.
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avbornbred says...
Walker turned a huge deficit into a surplus. That makes the libs ill!!
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Cagy Wolf says...
avbornbred why even debate with the liberal democrazies if they lose the agruement it then becomes the race card tossed out there.California had the 5th largest economy in the world a few years ago it dropped to 7th and god only knows how far it has dropped today.People who can afford to leave california are leaving in droves and companies leave because of the taxes and regulations.California has become a hellhole that the democrazy party has ruined and is just a haven and handout for illegal and legal immigrants.
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avbornbred says...
If a Lib did what Walker had done, he would be a hero. But libs rack up deficits. Look at the states who are booming, Texas, Arizona, Louisiana, New Jersey, Florida, and Ohio. Economies rebounding with GOP leadership. Then look at California and New York.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Roxi may I sugsest that you run not walk to the nearest mental health hospital and check in. They will help you with what ails you.
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roxi says...
Wisconsin was 50th – dead last in job creation for 2011. Where’s the money? Where’s the yobs, mannnnn?
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roxi says...
Walker ‘rescheduled’ the deficit pay-off for a later time when his “children & granchildren” can pay it off, after he’s out out of office.
Wisconsinites are now only paying the interest on the debt.
Where’s the money????!
In KOCH’s pockets, of course!
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roxi says...
06/07/12 – 03:04 AM
avbornbred says…
If a Lib did what Walker had done, he would be a hero.
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øh yeah? Then it’s ok for Gov. Brown to hack your pension in half – sounds like a good idea to me.
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Cagy Wolf says...
The left lunatics seem obsesse with Koch, if he and his brother ever run for office I think I will vote for them.
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roxi says...
Actually Sherman from Vegas helped a lot too, and some Arab from Beverly Hills….but, the Kroch bros probably will get a nice appointment in Robme’s cabinet — at least that’s the plan.
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Big Idiot says...
no math – 2 plus 2 be 4
no science – no problem drink hand sanitizer
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avbornbred says...
PANIC has set in with the libs. Wisconsin, a blue state, may lose that status after the November elections. Democrats in Wisconsin were not pleased that Obama did not offer any campaign support during the recall. The senate recalls could present a problem for Walker being able to complete his overhaul of the states budget, however, Dems that resist to the point of being partisan may feel the voters wrath in upcoming elections.
The defeat of the recall was big, but the margin of victory was not as big as big as Hannity makes it out to be. A 7 point margin can easily swing either way depending on up coming political events. The Democrat senators that fled the state in 2010 avoiding voting issues may also suffer in upcoming elections. The run and hide strategy did not sit well with a blue collar state.
Reading the comments from Roxi and Ray show a lot anger over last Tuesdays recall. The Libs are pissed.
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Cagy Wolf says...
avbornbred too bad if the liberals have their panties in a bind over the recall that failed. People there are tired of the wasteful spending and high taxes that democrats always raise and never lower.
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roxi says...
CW: “People there are tired of the wasteful spending and high taxes that democrats always raise and never lower.”
Huh?
Walker spends $30MILLION to keep his j.o.b., and that’s not wasting money??!
It’s quite unbelievable, (but flattering) when it takes a ratio of 7:1 in cash-money to beat a DEMOCRAT in a State election. But then, Meg Whitman spent $100MILLION – and lost, so I guess Walker’s handlers spent wisely.
Seriously, just how many jobs could have the “Job Creators” created with that money? Oh, that’s right – the Job Creators are afraid to INVEST in anything…..
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roxi says...
06/07/12 – 01:09 AM
Ray Cunneff says…
Not so fast, partner. Wisconsinites may have kept Scott Walker, but over two rounds of recalls they voted for a Democratic state Senate majority by electing Democrats John Lehman, Jen Shilling, and Jessica King.
Right, now the Dem’s don’t have to leave town to get nothing done. It’ll be just like Congress!
Plus, Walker has his John Doe heavily financed lawsuit to tend to, busily taking funds from his recall accounts….the next 2 years should prove to be quite exciting for Mr. Walker.
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avbornbred says...
I was watching the news this morning and caught a partial story of a teachers strike on the east coast. Parents and students were NOT in support of the teachers. Striking teachers and parents were on opposite sides in a blue collar community. The news story reported the average salary fir teachers in the district is 84K with 100% paid benefits. I don’t know what the issues are with the teachers and why they are striking, but it does not appear to be the right time for a strike. Public unions are not looked on favorably right now and union leadership needs to sit back and be patient and learn to give and take. With the unions, there is to much take.
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roxi says...
06/08/12 – 01:14 PM
avbornbred says…
I was watching the news this morning and caught a partial story of a teachers strike on the east coast. Parents and students were NOT in support of the teachers. Striking teachers and parents were on opposite sides in a blue collar community. The news story reported the average salary fir teachers in the district is 84K with 100% paid benefits.
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I can’t think of a public school district, except in a wealthy neighborhood that would pay teachers $84K. Perhaps you should get more information, instead of generalizing.
PA Gov. -R/Tea Party is slicing and dicing teacher’s pay big-time in Phillie, which will conveniently eliminate the schools in that area, and force students to either be bussed, or not have any school at all.
The average teacher’s pay is between $50K – $34K. They work an average of 8.5 hrs a day, + 3 hours at night working on the next day’s lesson plans, + pay for educational materials out of their own pockets that the school districts now no longer provide.
I’d say that’s an enormous financial out-of-pocket ‘give’ to the cause. When you come up with where this $84K + benefits figure came out of thin air, let us know.
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roxi says...
Jindal for VP?
Louisiana’s bold bid to privatize schools
ReutersBy Stephanie Simon | Reuters – Fri, Jun 1, 2012
(Reuters) – Louisiana is embarking on the nation’s boldest experiment in privatizing public education, with the state preparing to shift tens of millions in tax dollars out of the public schools to pay private industry, businesses owners and church pastors to educate children.
Starting this fall, thousands of poor and middle-class kids will get vouchers covering the full cost of tuition at more than 120 private schools across Louisiana, including small, Bible-based church schools.
The following year, students of any income will be eligible for mini-vouchers that they can use to pay a range of private-sector vendors for classes and apprenticeships not offered in traditional public schools. The money can go to industry trade groups, businesses, online schools and tutors, among others.
Every time a student receives a voucher of either type, his local public school will lose a chunk of state funding.
“We are changing the way we deliver education,” said Governor Bobby Jindal, a Republican who muscled the plan through the legislature this spring over fierce objections from Democrats and teachers unions. “We are letting parents decide what’s best for their children, not government.”
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http://news.yahoo.com/louisianas-bold-b … TNh;_ylv=3
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Small-government conservatives who say the government has no role in education, now saying the role of the government is to subsidize for-profit private institutions (private schools) through voucher programs.
Funny thing? They think the government subsidizing for-profit corporations like Solyndra or other energy companies an inappropriate interference in the free market. But it’s perfectly fine for these same hypocrites to subsidize with government funds for-profit educational corporations, Churches and institutions.
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avbornbred says...
The teachers strike I mentioned is in Bucks County PA. The total pay and benefits for teachers is 84K. They striked earlier this year snd did not receive a contract. They are striking again with no community support. It does not look good for the union. Again, poor union leadership.
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No Spin says...
America Taking America BACK!!
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