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Monday, August 06 2012 - 09:03 PM
Sikh Temple Massacre: Multiple
Sikh Temple Massacre: Multiple Shooters and Domestic Terrorism

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
August 6, 2012

Get ready for the corporate media to spin the FBI’s characterization of the shooting in Milwaukee as white supremacist domestic terrorism.

“Unnamed officials told NBC News that the suspect had served in the U.S. army, had many tattoos, and held ‘some kind of radical or white supremacist views’ but was not known to be affiliated with any radical group. The suspect had only traffic tickets on his criminal records, the officials told NBC News,” the Daily Beast reported late Sunday.

“Tattoos on the body of the slain Sikh temple gunman and certain biographical details led the FBI to treat the attack at a Milwaukee-area temple as an act of domestic terrorism, officials said Sunday,” the Los Angeles Times said on Sunday afternoon.

“A federal official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media refused to say whether the gunman was thought to belong to a hate group or some other violent group because the investigation was still unfolding.”

The shooting appears to be the work of an organized team. Despite the police and FBI stating there was only one shooter who was shot dead by police, people at the scene insist there was multiple shooters:

This inconvenient fact will be assigned to the memory hole as the establishment media follows the official narrative now being formulated – the shooter was a white supremacist with telltale racist tattoos who a) belonged to a political group that will be scapegoated and held up as an example of violent rightwing extremism, or b) was a “lone wolf” who followed racist political philosophy (more than likely sharing attributes outlined in the Department of Homeland Security’s “rightwing extremism” document, including the supposed threat by returning veterans).

Tags: Domestic News, Gun Rights, Police state

08/06/12 - 09:10 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Eyewitness: 4 Man Team Behind Sikh Temple Shooting

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Sunday, August 5, 2012
UPDATE: A separate source has corroborated the other eyewitness claim – a family member whose parents were victims of the shooting said his parents told him there were “multiple shooters” involved in a “coordinated” attack.

An eyewitness to the Sikh temple shooting in Wisconsin says that a team of four men dressed in black carried out the massacre, contradicting the official narrative that a lone gunman was the culprit.

Just like the ‘Batman’ massacre, after which eyewitnesses clearly stated that James Holmes had an accomplice, today’s tragedy in Oak Creek is already throwing up questions that may suggest a wider plot.

Speaking with the Associated Press, an eyewitness stated, “Between ten and ten-thirty, four white males who were dressed darkly, dressed in all black clothing, came in and opened fire on our congregation.”

With the federal government already labeling the shootings a “domestic terror incident,” the narrative is already being manufactured to blame the tragedy on conservatives and libertarians, as well as demonizing the second amendment.

President Barack Obama is already positioning himself to politically exploit the incident. Top Democratic strategists have previously welcomed the prospect of domestic terror incidents as a means of boosting Obama’s poll numbers and helping him re-connect with the American people.

I wish I could post the video that is with the story but filters prevent me at the current time.
No matter though, what the hell do eyewitnesses know anyway, right? Better to believe the government explanation and ignore their history of staging false flag attacks to get legislation passed. While they try desperately to take our guns and tell us veterans and right wing extremists are the new threat, what happens at the perfect time…again? Seriously, you gotta suspend disbelief to believe any of the official lies they spew. I am supposed to believe people who were not even there at the time over eyewitness accounts, again? Aurora eyewitnesses saw numerous shooters and now here too. I guess if you really want to be duped and don’t care much about getting to the facts, this can be swallowed as factual. Although it is pretty damn obvious to alot of people today just what is going on.
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08/06/12 - 09:11 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Is Sikh Temple Shooting Staged To Ban Guns?

Infowars.com
August 5, 2012

Obama insiders have publicly bragged that they have an ace up their collective sleeves against political enemies-staged mass shootings, bombings and other nasty terror. It is so easy to carry out a false flag and cast yourself as the hero while demonizing your opposition. All you need is a drugged up patsy to take the fall. This new tragedy has all the classic hallmarks of a sloppy false flag and the timing is just what the tyrants ordered.

“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.” – David Rockefeller

“Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death.” — Adolf Hitler
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08/06/12 - 09:26 PM
avbornbred says...
If you say so SS!
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08/06/12 - 10:06 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Ignore all the red flags and just listen and believe your TV avborn!
Don’t ever bother to research anything I say. Ignore ALL eyewitness accounts to every tragedy and instead listen to corporate news, you know the ones that meet in secret with government officials and foreign dignitaries. The ones caught splicing 911 calls in the Zimmerman case to make it look racist. You remember, the media that very few pay attention to anymore.
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08/06/12 - 10:23 PM
avbornbred says...
I you say so!
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08/06/12 - 10:27 PM
avbornbred says...
NBC GOT CAUGHT FOR THE ZIMMERMAN 911 TAPES.

BUT THE 911 CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE WAY OUT THERE.

THERE ARE INACCURACIES IN EVERY MAJOR EVENT. PEOPLE DON’T SEE THINGS THE SAME. PERCEPTIONS CAN ALSO COME INTO PLAY DURING STRESSFUL EVENTS.

I DO AGREE, SOME POLITICIANS, IF NOT MOST OF THEM, WILL USE MAJOR EVENTS FOR POLITICAL GAIN.
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08/06/12 - 11:20 PM
AV Town Crier says...
SS

I know, this is a false flag event. While the gunman may just be a whack-job with no connections the FBI and DHS will turn it into a terrorist deal.

Plus, why the fuck is the FBI even involved? This is a matter up to local law enforcement, period! If (and when) they turn up proof beyond . . . that there’s a terrorist conspiracy involved, then and only then should federal authorities be involved.
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08/06/12 - 11:49 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
I know you know Crier. I am trying to wake up avborn but he just will not admit the government lies to us, manipulates us, and the media is, at best complacent at worst, a partisan.

Okay avborn, to but into every explanation of the government is your choice. Why you do it regardless of the red flags(or coincidences), and eyewitness accounts is beyond me. But if you believe all the official explanations you must believe Oswald is the lone gunman too. Regardless of the facts! You must also believe the MSM never lies and neither does the government. You must ignore quirky things like eyewitness accounts coming out by numerous people, before the official story. In conjunction with silly little things like those eyewitnesses never being interviewed after the official account coming out.
I bring up Kennedy because their was a laundry list of things he did to piss off the NWO rogue elements in government, not the least of which was moving our dollar back to a gold/silver backed standard and screwing with these rogue elements plans as far as Cuba is concerned. It is declassified, and pretty common knowledge in informed circles that a plan was devised to stage false flag attacks on our own troops and equipment, in order to show it on media and get support for a Cuban invasion. This is how these rogue elements operate along with the media they have bought over the years. I am including a short video in this post which is all declassified, verifiable, and a part of true history never taught to anyone unless they want to know and look for themselves. If American Idol or some other form of mindless entertainment is on, play the vid during commercial break.


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08/07/12 - 12:06 AM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
If that isn’t enough, here is Kennedy mere months before he was murdered by the globalist scum of that time. Please, give the President the time and courtesey to listen, keeping in mind the vid you just watched.
Kennedy, as well as Reagan(before he was shot), are my two favorite recent time presidents.
Reagan was like Kennedy in as far as he fought the NWO influence as much as he could, until he was shot. It is no coincidence that he ended up with Alzheimers!
He can’t expose anything now can he?


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08/07/12 - 12:53 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
BTW, its not me that says so. Its the eyewitnesses and the facts that say so
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08/07/12 - 01:20 PM
avbornbred says...
SS: If you and I are witness to a crime, we will see and hear different things. If you are 10 feet from a shooting and I am 50 feet away, we will both see and hear different things. It is understandable during events to get differing statements from witnesses.

There is information that the left wing media is blaming Michelle Bachman. The left needs to blame conservatives for these shootings.

Reports are the FBI had information about the shooter. I don’t know why or what that information was .

The Feds classified the Wisconsin shooting as Domestic Terrorism. The Fort Hood shooting is not a terrrorist act.

I do agree the Feds play the politically correct card, especially under Obama.

More people were killed in Chicago last week than in tge Wisconsin shooting.
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08/07/12 - 01:24 PM
avbornbred says...
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Chicago’s murder rate up 38% in 2012
July 24th, 2012 by Edward Fadden
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Chicago Mayor Rahm Emmanuel rises every morning at 5:30 a.m. His first call is to Superintendent of Police Garry McCarthy to find out the number of murders and shootings the night before.

While New York City and Los Angeles have seen a decrease in the number of murders the Windy City is seeing a chilling rise. The reason is gang activity. Chicago now has more gangs than Los Angeles. The larger gangs have splintered into smaller gangs more prone to violence and personal vendettas.

View slideshow: Chicago’s murder rate up 38%
The Christian Science Monitor points out that, “January-to-June murders here were 58 percent higher than the number of US troops killed in Afghanistan during the same period.” The paper goes on to quote police and city officials as saying 80% of all shootings are related to gang violence.

Chicago has 24 neighborhoods. Most shootings and murders occur on the city’s West and South sides. The South side neighborhoods of Englewood, Roseland, South Shore and West Englewood each have over 100 murders this year. The West side neighborhoods of Humboldt Park and Austin also have over 100 homicides apiece. President Obama’s South side neighborhood of Hyde Park has had six murders this year.

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08/07/12 - 04:10 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
So if you and I were at a McDonalds and two black guys walk in with guns and rob it. You think you may tell the police they were white and I may say they were black? Or you may say it was 5 guys while I tell them it was 2?
If eyewitness accounts are so unimportant, why do police use an eyewitness to make arrests, to pick out perps in a line up, and in court to prosecute?
Why is it so hard to admit or understand that rogue elements known as the NWO have infiltrated our government? That they have been working on an agenda for decades and we are now seeing it come to fruition?
Terrance Yeakey saved 8 peoples’ lives in the OK city bombing. He was running in and out of the rubble and saw things that were covered up in the official reports. He was doing his own research and gathering evidence to disprove the official story. Terrance Yeakey supposedly committed suicide by slitting his wrists and throat, nearly bleeding to death in his car, he then miraculously climbed over a barbed wire fence and walked over 1 and a quarter miles through a nearby field, eventually shooting himself in the side of the head at an unusual angle. Oh yeah, just before that he was on the phone to a friend who he told that he was being followed by the feds.
Terrance Yeakey was recently promoted to Sergeant, was given the Key to the city of El Reno, had just reconciled with his ex wife and was planning to remarry, and was planning on working for the FBI in Dallas. This guy was a combat veteran who served as an MP.
He was being harrassed and followed and told many people about this before he died.
It is pretty clear to anyone who looks into his case, he was murdered and it was covered up by the local PD as well as the media and feds.
The facts do not lie and people do not commit suicide in that manner.
He is just one of the victims of these rogue elements who operate as a shadow government. They have written books about what they do and what their agenda is. They meet in secret with other globalists at places like Bilderburg. One only needs look at who owns and controls the majority of newspapers and television stations to see how easily the media is controlled.
Admitting the truth doesn’t make you anti-American or unpatriotic. To the contrary, nothing can or will change until people do admit the truth and demand it stop and those responsible be charged.
McCarthy was right, he was onto this rogue element operating in the entertainment field.
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08/07/12 - 04:31 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
“We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.”

David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

“In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press….They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.

“An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers.”

U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917

“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.”

Benjamin Disraeli, first Prime Minister of England, in a novel he published in 1844 called Coningsby, the New Generation

“The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen….At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties.”

New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

“How I Learned to Love the New World Order”

Article by Sen. Joseph R. Biden, Jr. in The Wall Street Journal (April 1992

“Gun registration is not enough” (Attorney General Janet Reno, 12-10-93) —Associated Press

“Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms
is the goal"—Janet Reno

The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.
The Elks Magazine (August 1956)
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08/07/12 - 04:32 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Chicagos murder rate is up because they have a city wide gun ban. Only the criminals have guns which leaves good people at their mercy. Of course the gun ban is because the city is run by criminals akin to La Cosa Nostra. It is aa globalist stronghols as is New York and L.A.
Rahm ran to ensure the globalists did not lose any ground and the rigged system ensured his win.
Don’t you find it even a little suspicious when people actually involved in an event report things that the government and media later deny or ignore altogether? They then give you an official story that doesn’t match up with eyewitnesses or even first responders. So the only people I am to believe are media or government officials who call people who love the constitution “potential terrorists”?
You ignore far to many “coincidences” and inconsistancies. i doubt you would ignore them in your personal life say if money were involved.
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08/07/12 - 05:35 PM
ocn8tv says...
the 4th estate has been corrupted. judith miller, former journalist for the new york times’ promotion of the former bush/cheney WMD war promotions, and later her participation in disclosing Valerie Plame’s identity as CIA personnel was one of most blatant buy-outs of journalistic integrity in history.

the fact that she is currently a member of the Council on Foreign Relations should give some pause.

believing reams of hatred on blogs doesn’t mean it’s the truth either. actively living and believing lies successfully morphs the brain into believing anarchy and war are the only answers.
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08/07/12 - 05:42 PM
CMGINAV says...
Remember when Bush was exposed for paying millions to newspapers to print favorable stories about him. So in the MSM truth has a price. Not so in independant journalism. It is usually people who love and want the truth and do diligent work and research to get to it. If like me, no amount of money could replace the satisfaction of exposing liars and the webs they spin. That is truly enjoyable!
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08/07/12 - 05:48 PM
CMGINAV says...
Nobody reads blogs for the info. There are plenty of legit sites that not only have the info but also have links or cite the exact document they are getting the info from. Any idiot can type into a google search the title or document record info, name of a book, quotes made by historical figures, or anything they just want to learn about. Even Wikipedia has a decent knowledge base on certain issues. Learning is easy with the internet. Of course the perception you kinda imply or that I get is it has to be from a corporate owned source or it is probably a lie. that is the exact opposite of the case. If it’s in Time, or People, or O, magazine, it is spun and not fully truthful. All of these sources are owned by the same 5 or 6 corporations, whos officers attend things like the CFR or Bilderburg or even Bohemian Grove where they can burn their cares away in a thinly veiled, satanic rite known as “The Cremation of Care”.
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08/07/12 - 05:49 PM
CMGINAV says...
These globalists have said what they want. Check the above quotes. They are brazen and know that you will hear it or read it and not care. Until it is too late that is.
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08/07/12 - 06:09 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Monday, June 13 2011 – 07:55 PM
High-Level American Officials Admit
High-Level American Officials Admit that the United States Uses False Flag Terror … And Warn of Future Attacks

Washington’s Blog
June 13, 2011

Preface: U.S. President James Madison said:

“If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”

Everyone knows that “truth is the first casualty of war“. And one of the most highly decorated American soldiers of all time said that “war is a racket”.

FBI agents and CIA intelligence officials, constitutional law expert professor Jonathan Turley, Time Magazine, Keith Olbermann and the Washington Post have all said that U.S. government officials “were trying to create an atmosphere of fear in which the American people would give them more power”. Indeed, the former Secretary of Homeland Security – Tom Ridge – admits that he was pressured to raise terror alerts to help Bush win reelection.

A former National Security Adviser told the Senate that the war on terror is “a mythical historical narrative”. In terms of a possible “why”, remember that psychologists and sociologists have demonstrated that fear of terrorism makes people stupid and easy to manipulate and control.

As I noted last year:

War is always sold to it’s people by artificially demonizing the enemy:

Countries need to lie about their enemies in order to demonize them sufficiently so that the people will support the war.

That is why intelligence “failures” – such as the following – are so common:

The U.S. Navy’s own historians now say that the sinking of the USS Maine — the justification for America’s entry into the Spanish-American War — was probably caused by an internal explosion of coal, rather than an attack by the Spanish.
It is also now well-accepted that the Gulf of Tonkin Incident which led to the Vietnam war was a fiction (confirmed here).
And two lies were used to justify the 1991 Gulf War: the statement that Iraqis murdered Kuwaiti babies and the statement that a quarter of a million Iraqi troops were massed on the border with Saudi Arabia (see also this article)(technically, the statement about Kuwaiti babies did not come from the U.S. government, but from a public relations firm hired by the government).
Indeed, in a newly-released documentary, U.S. soldiers admit that if they accidentally kill innocent Iraqis and Afghanis, they then “drop” automatic weapons near their body so they can pretend they were militants:

As I noted last year:

On Monday, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Hugh Shelton told Jon Stewart that a Clinton cabinet member proposed letting Saddam kill an American pilot as a pretext for war in Iraq:

(And see this; and this excerpt from General Shelton’s book).

This might seem, at first glance, like just an odd, one-off suggestion.

However, as reported by the New York Times and other newspapers, George W. Bush also suggested to Tony Blair that a U.S. plane be painted in United Nations colors so that – if Saddam shot it down – it would create a casus belli. As the Times wrote in 2006:

The memo [confirmed by two senior British officials as being authentic] also shows that the president and the prime minister acknowledged that no unconventional weapons had been found inside Iraq. Faced with the possibility of not finding any before the planned invasion, Mr. Bush talked about several ways to provoke a confrontation, including a proposal to paint a United States surveillance plane in the colors of the United Nations in hopes of drawing fire ….

Indeed, the former director of the National Security Agency said:

By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.

(audio here). ON INFOWARS.COM

Former FBI station chief Ted Gundersen also says most terror attacks are committed by our CIA and FBI:

Specific Historical Examples

The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister.

The former Italian Prime Minister, an Italian judge, and the former head of Italian counterintelligence admit that NATO, with the help of the Pentagon and CIA, carried out terror bombings in Italy and other European countries in the 1950s and blamed the communists, in order to rally people’s support for their governments in Europe in their fight against communism. As one participant in this formerly-secret program stated: “You had to attack civilians, people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security” (and see this)(Italy and other European countries subject to the terror campaign had joined NATO before the bombings occurred).

As admitted by the U.S. government, recently declassified documents show that in the 1960′s, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil, and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. See the following ABC news report; the official documents; and watch this interview with the former Washington Investigative Producer for ABC’s World News Tonight with Peter Jennings.

Nine months earlier, a false flag attack was discussed in order to justify an invasion of the Dominican Republic. Specifically, according to official State Department records, Under Secretary of State Chester Bowles wrote on June 3, 1961:

The Vice President [Lyndon Johnson], [Attorney General] Bob Kennedy, Secretary [of Defense Robert] McNamara, Dick Goodwin [who was Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs], [head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff] General Lemnitzer, Wyn Coerr, and Ted Achilles were here. Bob McNamara and Lemnitzer stated that under the terms of the contingency paper, they were required to be prepared to move into the island on short order if required to do so, and this, in their opinion, called for substantially more troops that we had in the area. After some discussion we considered two more aircraft carriers, some destroyers, and 12,000 marines should be moved into a position some one hundred miles off the Dominican Republic shore…

The tone of the meeting was deeply disturbing. Bob Kennedy was clearly looking for an excuse to move in on the island. At one point he suggested, apparently seriously, that we might have to blow up the Consulate to provide the rationale.

His general approach, vigorously supported by Dick Goodwin, was that this was a bad government, that there was a strong chance that it might team up with Castro, and that it should be destroyed–with an excuse if possible, without one if necessary.

Rather to my surprise, Bob McNamara seemed to support this view …

The entire spirit of this meeting was profoundly distressing and worrisome, and I left at 8:00 p.m. with a feeling that this spirit which I had seen demonstrated on this occasion and others at the White House by those so close to the President constitutes a further danger of half-cocked action by people with almost no foreign policy experience, who are interested in action for action’s sake, and the devil take the highmost …

[At a subsequent meeting], Bob McNamara went along with their general view that our problem was not to prepare against an overt act by the Dominican Republic but rather to find an excuse for going into the country and upsetting it.

When Congress was originally asked to pass the Patriot Act in late 2001, the anthrax attacks which occurred only weeks earlier were falsely blamed on spooky Arabs as a way to scare Congress members into approving the bill. Specifically:

The FBI was actually told to blame Anthrax scare on Al Qaeda by White House officials
High-level government insiders pointed towards Iraq as the source of the anthrax, even though there was absolutely no reason to think that the anthrax had come from Iraq
Indeed, many people have questioned whether or not the anthrax was intentionally sent to scare people. For example:

The anthrax letters attempt to link 9/11 and the anthrax attack and pretend to be from radical Muslims and be anti-America and anti-Israel
Would Arab terrorists have targeted only Congress men who were likely to oppose the Patriot Act and other tyrannical measures? Would they have gotten that specific in their targeting? In order to terrorize America as a whole, wouldn’t real Arab terrorists have sent anthrax to the Congressional leaders of both parties, regardless of their political postures towards particular legislation? Shouldn’t it have been obvious to the FBI that the killer was pro-tyranny, rather than being simply Anti-American? The “war on terror” and Iraq war were largely based on the claim that Saddam and Muslim extremists were behind the anthrax attacks (and see this and this)
Senator Patrick Leahy said:
And I think there are people within our government — certainly from the source of it — who know where it came from. [Taps the table to let that settle in] And these people may not have had anything to do with it, but they certainly know where it came from.

The FBI gave its consent in October, 2001 for the remaining samples of the Ames anthrax strain to be destroyed, thereby permanently destroying crucial “genetic clues valuable to the criminal inquiry”. Why would the FBI allow the Ames samples to be destroyed, other than to prevent fingers from being pointed toward the real killer, someone who worked for the U.S. government and had access to U.S. bioweapons?
The American bioweapons expert who actually drafted the current bioweapons law (the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989), who holds a doctorate of law magna cum laude and a Ph.D. in political science, both from Harvard University, and teaches international law at the University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana, served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-92) and represented Bosnia-Herzegovina at the World Court, and who “advised the FBI in its initial investigation of the anthrax letters”, is convinced that the anthrax attacks that killed five people were perpetrated and covered up by criminal elements of the U.S. government. The motive: to foment a police state by killing off and intimidating opposition to post-9/11 legislation such as the Patriot Act and the later Military Commissions Act. He has said:

Senators Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy were holding it up because they realized what this would lead to. The first draft of the PATRIOT Act would have suspended the writ of habeas corpus [which protects citizens from unlawful imprisonment and guarantees due process of law]. Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, come these anthrax attacks.

Department of Justice lawyer John Yoo suggested in 2005 that the US should go on the offensive against al-Qaeda, having “our intelligence agencies create a false terrorist organization. It could have its own websites, recruitment centers, training camps, and fundraising operations. It could launch fake terrorist operations and claim credit for real terrorist strikes, helping to sow confusion within al-Qaeda’s ranks, causing operatives to doubt others’ identities and to question the validity of communications.”

As Chris Floyd and many others have noted, this plan has gone live.

United Press International reported in June 2005:

U.S. intelligence officers are reporting that some of the insurgents in Iraq are using recent-model Beretta 92 pistols, but the pistols seem to have had their serial numbers erased. The numbers do not appear to have been physically removed; the pistols seem to have come off a production line without any serial numbers. Analysts suggest the lack of serial numbers indicates that the weapons were intended for intelligence operations or terrorist cells with substantial government backing. Analysts speculate that these guns are probably from either Mossad or the CIA. Analysts speculate that agent provocateurs may be using the untraceable weapons even as U.S. authorities use insurgent attacks against civilians as evidence of the illegitimacy of the resistance.

There is substantial additional evidence of hanky panky in Iraq.

We’re not alone. Countries around the world have played this terrible game for thousands of years.

If We Don’t Learn Our History, We’re Doomed to Repeat It

Indeed, many former high-level officials are warning that it could happen again:

A former National Security Adviser told the Senate that a terrorist act might be carried out in the U.S. and falsely blamed on Iran to justify war against that nation.
A retired 27-year CIA analyst who prepared and presented Presidential Daily Briefs and served as a high-level analyst for several presidents stated that if there was another major attack in the U.S., it would lead to martial law. He went on to say:

“We have to be careful, if somebody does this kind of provocation, big violent explosions of some kind, we have to not take the word of the masters there in Washington that this was some terrorist event because it could well be a provocation allowing them, or seemingly to allow them to get what they want.”

The former CIA analyst would not put it past the government to “play fast and loose” with terror alerts and warnings and even events themselves in order to rally people behind the flag.

Daniel Ellsberg, the famous Pentagon Papers whistleblower, said “if there is another terror attack, “I believe the president will get what he wants”, which will include a dictatorship
Scott Ritter, the former UN Weapons Inspector (an American) – who stated before the Iraq war started that there were no weapons of mass destruction – is now saying that he would not rule out staged government terror by the U.S. government
And a member of the British Parliament stated that “there is a very real danger” that the American government will stage a false flag terror attack in order to justify war against Iran and to gain complete control domestically
Postscript: Most serving in our military are good and honorable people who want to protect America and her people. It is only rogue elements within civilian and military circles who carry out false flag attacks.

From a past blog I posted. You probably missed it on purpose. The truth can be painful and the cowardly will never want to see it.
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08/07/12 - 07:12 PM
avbornbred says...
SS: 911 was a real event!

I also understand that Obama attemtped to influence Russia’s President Putin from taking action on an unk issue until after the November elections. If there was ever a concern a president would create drama to aid in a re-election bid, it would be Obama.
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08/07/12 - 08:36 PM
AV Town Crier says...
Sadly, AVB too many President’s have done this or allowed it. We have been in deep-doo,doo since FDR’s time and the rise of dictator J. Edgar Hoover. This has cost us American’s some (if not most, by now) our civil liberties.

Our govt. lies to us everyday (sometimes just for the sake of lying.)Since WWII we have seen a major and on-going power grab by federal authorities that is in clear violation of the 10th Amendment and in some cases posse comitatus.

This is NOT acceptable. It violates the peoples agreement with the govt. It’s called the US Constitution/Bill of Rights! let’s NOT forget the sacrifices and bloodshed of our forefathers to give us this great republic.
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08/07/12 - 09:41 PM
CMGINAV says...
Yes, 9/11 was a real event. The first responders as well as those in the buildings heard explosions. But we shouldn’t believe them cause media tells us different. The same media that reported a building had collapsed 20 minutes before it was actually brought down. There is video of police telling people to get back cause they were going to bring WT7 down. How did the media know 20 minutes before? It’s amazing, they should use the same crystal ball to predict these shootings before they happen.
Yes, 9/11 was a real event. A real false flag with many mistakes that anyone who understands how false flags work and how governments use them to control the populace or push legislation or in the case of 9/11, to push war.

Right after 9/11 Bin Laden put out a video denying any involvement in 9/11 and even said our government did it to ourselves. This was before the barrage of videos recut and re-edited and with poor translation, were released of him supposedly taking responsibility. I do not speak Farsi and only a fool would trust the bought and paid for media to tell the truth.
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08/07/12 - 09:42 PM
CMGINAV says...
Department of Justice lawyer John Yoo suggested in 2005 that the US should go on the offensive against al-Qaeda, having “our intelligence agencies create a false terrorist organization. It could have its own websites, recruitment centers, training camps, and fundraising operations. It could launch fake terrorist operations and claim credit for real terrorist strikes, helping to sow confusion within al-Qaeda’s ranks, causing operatives to doubt others’ identities and to question the validity of communications.”
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08/07/12 - 09:47 PM
CMGINAV says...
Some people are so invested in the once popular opinion of certain issues, they will never admit they were duped.
There is no shame in it. We all were duped at one point and it took someone else to wake us up, to show us the info, the documents, the videos. To care enough about others to not want to see them led straight into a FEMA camp. It all moves in increments and soon, very soon it will be very bad and media will blame patriots, militias, the Tea Party, and anyone who speaks out. Hopefully, the majority will be awake to the lies and not listen to the MSM and government demonization of the good people who care.
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08/07/12 - 10:18 PM
AV Town Crier says...
No question 9/11 was staged. No question some Muslim militants were conned into flying the planes. The real question is WHO exactly is behind it and organized it. There are many suspects, but they covered their trail. No doubt it’s affiliated at some level with Club of Rome/Bilderberg, NWO, international bankers, etc.
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08/08/12 - 12:08 AM
avbornbred says...
AVTC: So who hired the terrorist to hijack the jets? Was it Bush and Cheney?
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08/08/12 - 12:23 AM
avbornbred says...
So all the hatred towards the USA from Islam is just staged. So all the suicide bombers don’t really hate Americans and Jews, they are hired to blow themselves up.

I zm shocked that American citizens like AVTC and SS, have so much disdain for America, that you have no faith or trust in our country.

To live in a country where millions want to come to must mean something. Are we not the land of opportunity, until Obama ruins that.

The free world relys on the USA for back-up. The USA represents freedom, except for liberals, who complain for the sake of complaining.
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08/08/12 - 12:52 AM
avbornbred says...
The biggest threat to the USA is intolerant left. The left that wishes to crush Christianity, remove religion from our society, destroy Capitalism, and to create a dependent society, bringing down the greatest country in the world.

The likes of George Soros, who could be a NWO, a Bilderberger, a hamburger, or the richest Socialist in the world, represent a threat by placing the likes of Obama into power.
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08/08/12 - 01:54 AM
RealSteve says...
avbornbred

And the far right Jihadi Christian Right is better how?

I believe in the US Constitution, freedom of and from religion and religious zealots of all kinds.
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08/08/12 - 02:33 AM
Cagy Wolf says...
AVBB its both political parties they have sold out america and are traitors. The USS Lberty attack by the Jews is well documented and I have the book, which details how long the attack lasted and how the USA flag was clearly shown. Isreal paid millions to the family of the dead and maimed sailors on the USS Liberty. Its why we can no longer trust our government nor MSMedia to tell us the truth. Its sad to see america who was once world leader with ethics and morals, its why we are hated around the world.
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08/08/12 - 03:17 AM
avbornbred says...
Jihadi Christians? When was the last time you heard of Christians killing Homosexuals, prostitutes, adulteress women, people of other religions, or infginging on someone elses rights.
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08/08/12 - 04:59 AM
ocn8tv says...
you’re right. they just hire someone else to do it.
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08/08/12 - 07:59 AM
Cagy Wolf says...
ocn8tv are you crazy, do you really believe the right is so loony they would hire someone to do something like that? Christians on the most part seems to help people far more than the atheist left does at all and while there are bad apples in every group the left seems to have far more. No ocn8tv your just another believer of the lies that MSMedia and the government tells you, I kinda feel sorry that you are too blind to see.
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08/08/12 - 04:32 PM
avbornbred says...
Ocn8tvAKARoxi: Seriously!
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08/08/12 - 05:04 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Of course there are real terrorists who hate us but they do not have the means to do anything to us. They are poor and without a larger group to supply arms, bombs, literature, passports, and all the connections it takes to do what was done on 9/11, they are just pissed off people who do not understand or know what America truly is. It is those larger groups like Al Quaida, which we all know was created by the CIA to destabilize the U.S.S.R. in Afghanistan. We, or other western nations create those larger groups, we fund them, our intelligence agencies run them. They are the ones who call the shots behind the scenes which is why Al Quaida’s number two guy was invited to dinner at the Pentagon last year. Sometimes they are legit terrorists who are provided the means and way to attack. Sometimes they are patsys who are doped up and have had their brains messed with via electro shock, drugs, and media stimulation. Or just patsys who are doped up and brought to the scene of an attack to take the blame as the shooter which is why eyewitnesses keep reporting numerous attackers.
Very few cases of legit terrorist attacks that were not funded by foreign intelligence, our intelligence, or a puppet group like Al Quaida.
Bush’s are freinds with bin Ladens. Isn’t that a huge red flag? Just like Hillary has a staffer with family ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, another red flag should go up. 5 billion people in the world and I am suppose to believe that is coincidence. Maybe if it were isolated but these ties keep popping up.
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08/08/12 - 05:09 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
BTW avborn,
How loving would you be if you had foreign troops busting in your neighbors door and terrorizing an innocent family? Or if they prevented you from moving freely through your country with road blocks and convoys?
Would you, could you not grow to hate the invaders? Could you not envision attacking them? We are creating Islams hate for us by invading and funding foreign mercenaries to come try to destabilize sovereign governments. Meanwhile these mercenaries are raping women, killing families, and destroying homes while our media tells us it’s the government of that nation doing it. They may fool you, but the people in country see who is doing it and they post video on youtube and twitter what they can. The truth always gets out.
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08/08/12 - 05:14 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
avbornbred says…
The biggest threat to the USA is intolerant left. The left that wishes to crush Christianity, remove religion from our society, destroy Capitalism, and to create a dependent society, bringing down the greatest country in the world.
Yes but many on the right are the same as those intolerant left. They are called neo-cons. They say one thing and do another whenever they have a chance. People like John McCain for example defending Clintons staffer who has those ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. People like Bush Sr. calling for a NWO and now is a buddy to Bill Clinton. These are neo-cons because they are sell outs and not conservative at all. RINOs are what they are. I am still conservative but I do not like, trust, or support any neo-con, EVER.
People like Ron Paul are true conservatives who are not afraid to go against a party who’s majority are sold out neo-cons. Just look at the voting record of people like McCain and then Ron Paul. No comparison.
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08/08/12 - 05:27 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
RealSteve said:
I believe in the US Constitution, freedom of and from religion and religious zealots of all kinds.

No where does it say freedom from religion. It only says you have a right to practice whatever religion you want and that congress “shall make no law respecting an establishmentof religion or prohibiting the FREE exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances”
No where does it say you have a right to interfere with Christian churches, the cross displayed on private property, or a right to never see or hear anything about Christianity. Your rights end where mine begin and no court, no officer, and no group will intimidate or cause me to budge even a little on my rights. In fact, trying to pressure that, only increases my drive to rebel. Best thing is to leave it alone and let nature take it’s own course but you atheistic/polytheistic people hate Christ so much you just have to attack at every opportunity which causes strong Christians to reply and fight back.
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08/08/12 - 05:30 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Look at all the anti-Christs coming out showing their true colors here. This ones for you…
There’s ONLY one way to Heaven and that is through the Son. Jesus Christ is the ONLY way and the other so called gods are fallen angels stealing the True God and Creators’ rightful worship!
Hows that for intolerant?
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08/08/12 - 05:40 PM
avbornbred says...
SS: if foriegn troops were out collecting our guns, I, like MILLIONS of other Americans would protest, probably with violence. That is why Obama is in for a fight. Our military and law enforcement would stand with the people by upholding the US Constitution, not a UN treaty.

The left uses our courts to overturn elections and is trying to use the UN to take our guns. What I said about the left is true.

There are good politicians out there, Obama, Reid, and Pelosi, are not good. They lie and manipulate laws for their iwn financial gains.
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08/08/12 - 05:52 PM
avbornbred says...
Is Obama not from the Far Left! His direction is about creating a dependent society. His economic plans have no way of working. They are designed to create Socialism in our country. Obama is not a moderate, he is so far left, he could be an Occupy member except he won’t fight. He lets the Occupy Chud soldiers fight his csuse.
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08/08/12 - 06:10 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
But that is my point. Why should people in a foreign land also not react with violence. People are people. Your reaction is their reaction to the same invasion scenario.
I am not sticking up for any of the above mentioned politicians. Yet to be fair, if I am gonna criticize their globalist crap, then I must also do the same to the neo-cons. Those good politicians are the ones you never hear about. The Jr. Senators. As for congress, the majority are crooks and have all but let their authority be diminished. They have let themselves become almost purely ceremonial. No matter cause when congress or the senate refuse or stall globalist legislation, Obama just threatens executive order. And when Romney is in, he will do the same…rule with executive order.
Meanwhile, the only people hurt is all of us, both left and right. Instead, left and right need to put differences aside and refuse ALL globalists from both sides. DEMAND repeal of unconstitutional legislation and removal of globalists from office. Only united will we stand against this threat. Our commonality? We are all Americans before liberal or conservative.
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08/08/12 - 06:12 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
When muslims defend their land from western troops you call them terrorists.
The PATRIOT Act was written for terrorists as was numerous other legislation.
When the UN sends in foreign troops to America to help disarm citizens and patriotic Americans react. We will be called terrorists and all that legislation will come into play fo us. That’s why this legislation and these wars are wrong.
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08/08/12 - 06:56 PM
AV Town Crier says...
AVBB its both political parties they have sold out america and are traitors. The USS Lberty attack by the Jews is well documented and I have the book, which details how long the attack lasted and how the USA flag was clearly shown”

I am well aware of that incident. I am a Navy Veteran. Israel new that they were attacking an American war ship, that of an ally. it was no mistake and nobody has explained why they would do it. Since that time I have NOT supported Israel and won’t. Allies don’t bomb and kill their friends.

AVB

While I have the utmost respect for you, We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this. But, I think you’re gonna wake up one day awfully disappointed.

This NWO manifesto was delivered to the public in 1955 by CFR’s Norman Dodd. It spells out everything that you say happening today. Either the CFR has a better crystal ball than that gypsy on the corner, or they have inside information on the plan, or are in fact, part of the planners of said.

And I’m NOT anti-American! I am a proud Vietnam vet! I am against the thieves who are stealing our civil liberty and other rights by their actions. Actions of those we voted for who swore to uphold the Constitution. they are traitors. Every one who voted for the patriot’s Act is a traitor to American and the Constitution and should be executed for their traitorous deeds.

I feel sorry for you AVB is you think that this is the America that our founding fathers gave us (at the cost of their own blood, no less!)
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08/08/12 - 07:25 PM
marino says...
Nobody is forcing Muslims to butcher, behead, and blow non-military men, women, and children to pieces.

Nobody but Muslims were on those planes that flew into the WTC.

No other goups can compete with the number of Muslim attacks on citizens in various countries throughout the world.
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08/08/12 - 07:52 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Saudi Arabians were on those planes! Not Afghanis, not Iraqis, not Syrians.
Saudi Arabians that were supposedly Al Quaida. We fund and control Al Quaida. Have you not seen the CFR praising Al Quaida in the recent news? Google it and check it out. We lose rights for Al Quaida, yet today our “leaders” are praising them. Nice.
The only muslims committing those atrocities are the ones we are funding to destabilize Syria. Then our propaganda machine shows the images on TV and tells you it is the Syrian government or whomever else they want to go to war with.
Isn’t it odd that one government after the next just “ALL OF A SUDDEN” starts committing thes atrocities? It would be if you bothered to read the plan of the globalists. They think you are so stupid that you will never go and read their writings and even if you do they can just use the media to tell you it isn’t true even though you can watch it happen everyday in the news.
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08/08/12 - 07:54 PM
Cybertariat says...



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250,000 to 300.000 human beings slaughtered in Christianity’s Jihad known as the Crusades.


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08/08/12 - 07:57 PM
avbornbred says...
SS: Trained in Bin Ladin’s camps in Afghanistan. Muslims all of nationalities trained there.
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08/08/12 - 08:00 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
LBJ on line with Admirals who sent air support to the USS Liberty, “recall the wings, no help, I want that ship going to the G@# damn bottom”. Kinda like the F16s being recalled on 9/11 huh?

So glad your on this site Crier. At least you get it and informed conversation is so much better than trying to walk sheep through the door of reality.
I cannot understand why it is so hard to understand how government and media manipulate peoples perception and lie.
Even with the quotes and admissions of people in history whos’ credibility is beyond reproach. Andrew Jackson, Washington, Lincoln, Kennedy, Hoover, Churchill, even the enemy themselves like Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, or even the banksters like Paul Warburg. They tell you what they want and how they intend to do it, yet still people refuse to believe them or anyone who tries to make them aware of the agenda.
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08/08/12 - 08:02 PM
avbornbred says...
SS: Islam brought the war to us. For decades they attacked us. Not until a president was willing to fight back , we took the fight to them.
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08/08/12 - 08:04 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Again, Bin Ladens initial and first response to 9/11 is that he had nothing to do with it and that our own government did it.
I never met the man, never spoke with him. All I know of him is dependant upon my trust in the MSM. Trust that they investigate where the videos come from and that they are properly translated.
In a previous blog I posted it was reported that the CIA made fake videos for propaganda use. So after they admit it I should still base my views upon the videos they release? I look at initial reactions, before any “men in black” can threaten the witnesses with BS like “national security” which means globalists security cause if the truth got out they would all be lynched without any trial.
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08/08/12 - 08:07 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Cyber said:
250,000 to 300.000 human beings slaughtered in Christianity’s Jihad known as the Crusades

What he meant was Catholic crusades and catholic is NOT Christian! It is a perversion of Christianity. A blending of Christian and Roman pagan religions.
Who ran the crusades cyber? Was it protestant or of the roman church?
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08/08/12 - 08:07 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Don’t pin atrocities on Christians because true Christians adhere to Jessus Christs commandments not the Pope or Rome.
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08/08/12 - 08:15 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
For decades they attacked us.
Examples please of Syrias attacks on us for decades. Okay how about Iraqs decade old attacks on us? How about Afghanistans decades long attacks on us?
Stay out of their nations, stay out of their sovereign governments, stop trying to push globalism on them, and they will stay in their own lands.
Again, Bushs’ are family freinds of the Bin Ladens. The only planes in the air on 9/11 were the Bin Laden family.
Kinda like the Bushs’ being friends with the Hinckleys and dining with them just before Reagan was shot. the NWO candidate and the one who was supposed to win was Bush. Reagan did not like Bush and said he would never pick him for VP. Yet he did. Huh, that’s weird. All just coincidences though. Like us admitting we run and fund Al Quaida now. Ha, they got you!
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08/08/12 - 08:18 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
avbornbred says…
SS: Islam brought the war to us. For decades they attacked us. Not until a president was willing to fight back , we took the fight to them.

Yeah I remember all those bus bombings and mall attacks.
Now wake up AVborn cause your dreaming. You think it’s cool to hate muslims, i get it. Just remember I told you it was all about enslaving you. Soon you will either go along or be labeled a terrorist yourself. I have money on you going along with it all, even the gun grab.
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08/08/12 - 08:21 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Heres a statistical fact, your more likely to be hit by a semi than be harmed in a terrorist attack. Maybe next week we can demonize and hate ALL truckers huh? That’s logical thinking in the 2012s!
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08/08/12 - 10:33 PM
avbornbred says...
SS: So we should just dismiss the deaths of 3000 fellow Americans on 911 as just bad luck.
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08/08/12 - 10:41 PM
avbornbred says...
SS: you are starting a reach with your opinions. You believe our government is responsible for just about everything bad. An inside job on 911. An inside job in Aurora. An inside job in Wisconsin.

Our government has nothing better to do but kill Americans in staged attacks.

It is time to seek help for your issues.
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08/08/12 - 10:41 PM
Cybertariat says...



The SS: “Who ran the Crusades, Cybertariat, was it Protestants or the Roman Church? [sic].”

Peruse the website that I link to in my previous post. I linked to it precisely because of its accuracy which is to say that it is, historically speaking, very accurate.

The SS: “[Catholicism] is a perversion of Christianity; a blending of Christian and Roman pagan religions.”

Yes, of course it is, just as the recent shooting in Wisconsin was carried out by “a small and well-trained group of assassins who are on the payroll of the US-shadow government.”

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08/08/12 - 11:24 PM
avbornbred says...
SS: Afghanistan was home to Terrorist training camps allowed by the ruling Taliban. Bin Ladin was allowed to train and plan terrorist attacks sgainst our country from Afghganistan.

Syria allowed terrorist to train in the Beqaa Valley launching attacks on Israel and into Iraq during the Iraq war. Syria is not allied with the US, but has supported our enemies.
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08/08/12 - 11:42 PM
Cagy Wolf says...
Who gives a crap what cyberincestbaby has to say? Its either distorted or warped by his personal opinion and not based on facts unless some other intellectual giant makes some absurd comments that tend to agree with cyberidiot.
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08/09/12 - 12:05 AM
avbornbred says...
Cagy: Cybertariat has real liberal ideals to debate with. SS is just way out there.

Cybertariat is educated and has an understanding of history and world events, although from a liberals point of view.

SS researches Martian websites and believes that Marvin the Martian is part of the NWO Bilderbergers , and Hamburgers.
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08/09/12 - 01:02 AM
Cybertariat says...



Following the bombing of the US Marine Corps barracks in Beirut, Lebanon, in 1983, which followed and which was carried out in retaliation for the Israeli military having enabled Lebanon’s Christian Falangist Party to slaughter approximately 1500 civilians within the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps, the USS New Jersey began to lob Volkwagen-sized bombs into the Beqqa Valley. For several days, the Reagan administration allowed the USS New Jersey to pound the Beqqa valley from some twenty-five miles away and thus ever-so cowardly; killing thousands of civilians – virtually all of whom had absolutey nothing to do with the Lebanese civil war. That, then, avbornbred, served as a huge portion of the context in which the Beqqa Valley was later used by elements of al-Qaeda (originally a US CIA intelligence operation) for the training of terrorists (read: desperately poor and beleaguered people engaging in desperate acts of violence).

Related reading: Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire, Chalmers Johnson, Viking Press, 1988.

Finally, avbornbred, is your continued insistence with respect to my being “a liberal” based upon some sort of continuing misunderstanding of the distinct difference between Marxism and liberalism or is it, rather, nothing more than a reflection of your being somewhat childish – upon your need to provoke me?

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08/09/12 - 02:24 AM
avbornbred says...
Pointing out my point of view and comparing it to a liberals point of view, creates great discussion.

The deadly conflict between the Jews and Arabs will continue for decades. The deadly conflicts between Christians and Muslims in the Middle East will continue. Christian Arabs are attacked constantly in almost all Arab countries, however, it is not always reported. When Muslims ate not killing each other, Islam attacks other religious groups.

I find it amazing that Christian attacks from decades ago, is still remembered today. Probably because it was far and few between. Arab terrorist attacks have happened by tbe 1000’s in decades. It is hard to remember them all except for 911.
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08/09/12 - 02:58 AM
Cagy Wolf says...
Cyberidiot how can someone like you, who has never served in the military or even has the guts to fight a disabled old man call what the USS Jersey cowardly? No, sadly your a coward and a degenerate pervert whose very existence is appalling. Go find a communist run country and move the fuck there or stfu.
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08/09/12 - 01:42 PM
avbornbred says...
Cybertariat: You live a liberal lifestyle, something you had broadcasted to the entire world. You have also written many threads citing Karl Marx and othe Socialist, which you use to support an argument or point.

I would say Cybertariat is 99% a Liberal, Socialist, and 1% closet Capitalist.
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08/09/12 - 01:50 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Avborn, all I am saying is that if you look at the official story and then factor in all the weird things like eyewitness accounts that do not corraborate the official story, and any other mistakes made, it doesn’t make sense. However if you look at the same situation and factor in all the above mentioned and look for an alternative explanation that makes more sense, then you find the truth. There are ALWAYS more than one or two ways to look at things. Perspective and perception.

As for Cybers rant:
For several days, the Reagan administration allowed the USS New Jersey to pound the Beqqa valley from some twenty-five miles away and thus ever-so cowardly; killing thousands of civilians –
Reagan didn’t allow anything. Reagan was shot when he tried to be a real president and lead. After that, he did what he was told by Bush Sr., Mr. NWO hinself.
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08/09/12 - 03:12 PM
avbornbred says...
If what you say about Reagan Is true, then Bush Sr. turned around the 80’s economy.

As for witnesses, witness reports are never 100% reliable and accurate. Lets say you were sitting in the middle of theatre 9 in Aurora. If the shooter entered and threw gas grenades, starts firing, in a dark theatre with a loud movie playing, how accurate are your observstions? Add that SS hits the deck and lays on the floor between seats in fear and hiding. How good is your view of the events. Not very good laying on a sticky floor,getting stepped on, hearing multiple shots, screams, and chaos. What kind of accurate statement would you be able to give.

As for 911, the event was so overwhelming, sights, sounds, echoes, surreal sights and sounds, play havoc with peoples view of events.

Conspiracy theorists, will take any inaccuracy or conflicting statements and immediately assume George Bush “did it.”
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08/09/12 - 03:42 PM
AV Town Crier says...
AVB

I don’t think anybody is saying George Bush did it. Both Bush’s (mostly daddy) (as well as Bubba Bill) are merely members of the Club of Rome/Bilderberg, etc. It’s likely that the Club of Rome’s committee of 300 proposed and financed the plan.

it like the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Did the Japanese military think one squadron would wipe out America’s military? We weren’t even in the damn war. We were neutral. Why would japan want to antagonize us to enter the war?

The only one who really benefited from our entry into the war was Great Britain. I fully suspect that they were behind Pearl harbor by conning a Japanese General into doing their dirty work. That scam worked and was repeated on 9\11.
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08/09/12 - 03:44 PM
AV Town Crier says...
AVB

I am a great fan of Reagan (at least his first term.) After he was shot, things slipped away as SS pointed out.
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08/09/12 - 05:24 PM
avbornbred says...
Is Soros part of the Bildebergers, the NWO, and behind Obama?
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08/09/12 - 08:31 PM
AV Town Crier says...
AVB

I believe Soros is a Bilderberger/Trilateralist (which is the NWO). I’m pretty sure that the above mentioned are supporting both candidates. This way, they are sure to win and we, the people are sure to lose.
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08/10/12 - 12:16 AM
Cybertariat says...



The SS – he whom the use of quotation marks is lost upon: "As for Cybertriat’s rant:

" [Cybertariat:] ‘For several days the Reagan administration allowed the USS New Jersey to pound the [highly impoverished] Beqqa Valley from some twenty-five miles away and thus ever-so cowardly; killing thousands of civilians…’ (Emphasis not in original.)

“Reagan didn’t allow anything. Reagan was shot for [his having] tried to [lead by being a real president]. After that, he did what he was told by Bush Sr. – Mr. NWO himself [sic].”

Perhaps the SS, whose status as an intellectual flyweight is exceeded only by his heinous command of the English language, need reread what he himself reproduced which reads, yet again, “For several days, the Reagan administration allowed the USS New Jersey to…” “the Reagan administration” rather than Reagan himself.

Yes of course the all but brain-dead Ronald Reagan was not involved in the decision to slaughter thousands of Lebanese civilians in the Beqqa Valley, nor was he involved in much of anything else. And, yes, he was told what do and largely what to say by George H.W. Bush, but also by Michael Deaver, Donald Regan, Ed Meese and others.

“Cybertariat’s rant” indeed.

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08/10/12 - 12:37 AM
Cagy Wolf says...
Cyberidiot you are clearly not well, how about checking into a mental health clinic and get cured of your moronic nonsense by electroshock therapy and maybe some very good drugs might help also. Barring that why don’t you just STFU and not come back here, cause no one but idiots and traitors want any of your absurd sprouting of bullshit and lies you little nitwit. You just a coward and a traitor anyway Cyberincestbaby.
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08/10/12 - 12:46 AM
Cagy Wolf says...
Cyberduchebag why don’t you move to one of the communist run countries, I feel you would be more happy there. And you would have a bunch of little communist butt buddies to play with and associate with. No one likes you except Ray the Retard and Matt the Moron. You are just an amusing balding old homosexual communist/socialist/marxist dirtbag.
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08/10/12 - 12:47 AM
Cagy Wolf says...
Indeed.
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08/10/12 - 05:39 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Why not say that instead of just use a generic like the Reagan adminisstration when really it was Bushs’ administration. Who is Bush? A war criminal and son of a Hitler supporter and financier. Who is Obama? The true son of Frank Marshall Davis an avowed communist.
As for the “english language” we all know you speak in the queens proper english. If a Brit were on here, they would tear your english to bits. However being in America, on a social blog site, none of us are expecting or in need of your grammer lessons. But thank you for your input.
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08/10/12 - 05:44 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says...
Who cares about a propped up economy AVborn, when they are discussing things like REX 84? Don’t remember REX 84 from Iran Contra? It is the contingency plan to suspend the constitution, implement marshall law, and put people in detention camps(concentration camps). Ollie North was asked about it during Iran Contra hearings. Check the YouTube on it.
My issue is trying to destroy our sovereignty and put us in UN control. The economy is manipulatable by the banksters and so they can inflate it or deflate it whenever they want. It wasn’t Bush who did anything for the economy. Nor is it Obama today. It’s the banks!
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08/24/12 - 05:11 PM
avbornbred says...
Work place shooting in NYC. 2 dead, 6 wounded, big top story.

Not in the news. Chicago last week had 15 homicides last week and 19 people shot in separate shootings on thursday night alone. Black on Black violence, can’t report it, Obama’s community organized into war zones.
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08/24/12 - 05:15 PM
avbornbred says...
That is brainwashing for ya. Can’t report da truth ehhh!
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08/24/12 - 06:24 PM
AV Town Crier says...
AVB

Like murder is news anymore. It’s so commonplace that if you read one story, you’ve read them all. Plus, if you report on every murder, there wouldn’t any more room for any other stories.

In fact, a murder was just committed here, I’m more than sure on my posts that i have murdered the English language.
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