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Friday, September 11 2009 - 05:58 PM
Obama Trained Acorn Employees.

09/11/09 - 06:12 PM
marino says...
Acorn Part II


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09/11/09 - 06:17 PM
marino says...
Obama and Acorn.


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09/11/09 - 06:25 PM
Cagy Wolf says...
Just goes to show what a scumbag Obama is.
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09/11/09 - 06:26 PM
No Spin says...
The Census Bureau just announce they are separating themselves completely from ACORN

OUTSTANDING!
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09/11/09 - 06:54 PM
whomeye says...
I sure hope that brave reporter has bodyguards. i can imagine she’s looking over her shoulders constantly. obama has some dirty hands.
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09/11/09 - 11:00 PM
Just a mom says...
wonder if Oprah is in this deep ? This is just great and I am pleased as punch to see this crooked,crooked org. get busted. The kid who did is underfire and they are tring to press charges. Whats the difference between him doing it or 20/20 or 7 on yourside busting eateries or anybody else bringing the story to light. The State run media wouldn’t so a bright kid did what left wing media would not. Good for him !
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09/11/09 - 11:46 PM
marino says...
Oprah doesn’t care what wrong doing Obama was/is involved with. The first (half) black president gets a free ride. Much of it do to his being a democrat and some of it do to his race.

The liberal networks don’t mention jack about Acorn. Some by CNN, but nothing from the rest. Obviously FOX News.

The sleeping giant is no longer sleeping.
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09/12/09 - 12:41 AM
whomeye says...
i’ve been flipping back and forth on several different websites in hopes that they too would feature the story. foxnews had it on for the second day before cnn finally put it on for a four hours, now its off probably buried in the archives somewhere. funny isn’t it…
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09/12/09 - 07:43 AM
No Spin says...
And I watched this Rachel Maddow for the first time last night… I was given the impression by a Lib in here that she was a REAL reporter not the usual MSNBC “Keith Overbite” ideological bigot..

WTF?? She did nothing for an hour but attack conservatives! It was insidious and she was as bigoted toward the right as anyone I have ever watched!

She took a 2 minute clip for instance of a public meeting and ONE person screamed out “He’s a Liar” and made it sound as if all the conservatives now will do that at any public gatherings..

She connected Glen Beck’s 912 project’s event today to “The Conservatives way of paying tribute to the 911 victims is to hold an event on the 12th to protest something.. But I am not sure what they are protesting”..

Then she compared the clip of the “He’s a Liar” to a Michelle Obama prepared video and Obama’s speech at the Pentagon and commented “see the difference”… WOW!!!!!

I watched all day yesterday and both Liberals and Conservatives were
participating in 911 tributes at various locations across the globe..

This HACK then went on and on with various reports so slanted they made you ill.. She even mocked the death of a Pro Life protester as the “First recorded murder of a pro life advocate compare to the dozens of Pro-abortion murders over the past few years!!!” Are you kidding me??? This guy was gunned down in front of High School kids and this HACK uses his murder to prove a political point?

So once again MSNBC illustrated for me why their ratings are in the sewer… This HACK, who can ONLY work on MSNBC, is as irrelevant in the real world as Jeannie Garafalo is..
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09/12/09 - 11:21 AM
whomeye says...
i’m still waiting for msnbc to post the acorn story…
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09/12/09 - 11:46 AM
Randy Hall says...
I think MS NBC proved she isn’t a news source. That leaves the question of what is she?
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09/12/09 - 12:34 PM
marino says...
MSNBC post this story???!!! Hahahahaha……Perhaps if Obama was the one in the vid doing the talking. But I seriously doubt even then.

MSNBC isn’t news. It’s a leftwing talkshow that pretends to be news.
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09/12/09 - 12:40 PM
No Spin says...
10:12 am
MSNBC – Today – Showing yet another OBAMA Healthcare Speech – this time in Minnesota

FOX – showing Tea-Parties – BOTH SIDES and the 912 event

CNN – Discussing Health Care from BOTH sides.. (Will see what they cover at 11am)

That tells the real story…

ps.. I was very impressed with the CNN report… very balanced… admittedly I expected less than that from them… It was nice…
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09/12/09 - 12:43 PM
No Spin says...
And this Rachel hack presented ONLY her views in the hour I watched.. no Debate, just a left wing sermon… Perhaps she offered other views later, I don’t know as I was waiting for my Pepto Bismol to take affect after watching her for almost an hour..
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09/12/09 - 12:45 PM
marino says...
Is Acorn still recieving government (taxpayer) funding? Why is the government afraid of Acorn? Why aren’t most of the news networks reporting this?

If Bush had been involved with this organization, he would have been raked across the coals by Overbite, Maddow, Matthews, ABC, CNN, and every form of liberal media, for hours and days at a time.

Obama=Free Pass. How cute.
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09/12/09 - 12:50 PM
marino says...
No Spin, good for CNN. Perhaps they’re trying.

Rachel Maddow is a liberal for obvious reasons. She has an agenda, and that’s all that matters to her. And a little makeup wouldn’t hurt.

Overbite was a failing backbencher for ESPN. His ratings were bad and now they’re worse.

Obama gives Matthews orgasms, and because of that he’s bias. I guess McCain didn’t turn him on.
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09/12/09 - 12:54 PM
No Spin says...
Ray bragged in a thread a couple of weeks ago about this Maddow’s and I committed to taking some time to watch her show..

I went in with an open mind expecting some hint at a real discussion and WOW was I wrong… So to let you all know.. as a TV reviewer, Ray really sucks at it…. LOL

But then again.. maybe I just caught her on a bad hair day??? Libs have those, right?
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09/12/09 - 12:57 PM
Have Faith says...
I don’t agree with all the posts here, but it must be said that if the acorn video is leditimate the women should easily be charged with providing accounting devices without a cpa license. Did the da do that?
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09/12/09 - 12:59 PM
marino says...
NS, I’ve watched Maddow many times and she’s NEVER been fair. She’s “Left” 24/7.
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09/12/09 - 01:00 PM
No Spin says...
IF it is legitimate?? WTF? How can it not be and then they went to DC with a camera and the same damn thing happened..

Come on HF.. IF it is legitimate? LOL
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09/12/09 - 01:00 PM
marino says...
Have Faith, good question. Perhaps we’ll learn more as info is released.
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09/12/09 - 01:01 PM
No Spin says...
They were fired and the US Census bureau fired ACORN from anything to do with the next census..
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09/12/09 - 01:07 PM
marino says...
Ok, now if the governemt would just stop throwing our money into the Acorn money pit….

There is a new Acorn video with similar activities to this one. I will look for it and post it.

Ya think Obama will denounce Acorn like he does health insurance companies?

Hahahahaha…..sure.
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09/12/09 - 01:21 PM
marino says...
More Acorn (government funded) corruption at another Acorn office. I’m sure the Acorn Admin. knows nothing of this. Right.


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09/12/09 - 01:27 PM
No Spin says...
CNN

Split screen..

Tea Parties
Obama Rally
Democrat Rally

Cannot get much more balanced than that.. I am shocked and impressed…
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09/12/09 - 01:31 PM
No Spin says...
DC 912 Project is PACKED… Has to be close to a hundred thousand or more…

Astro Turf? Plants? “Nazi’s?” A “Mob”?..

Or American Citizens exercising their AMERICAN right to voice their opinions?

You choose.
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09/12/09 - 01:31 PM
whomeye says...
ns, i saw that too. it’s even on the website.

oh, yahoo! acorn won’t be knock’n on my door to be my keeper.
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09/12/09 - 01:34 PM
marino says...
This last video was taped at Acorn’s Washington DC office.
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09/12/09 - 01:45 PM
whomeye says...
yesterday pelosi stated that the 9/12 rally would bring two million today. i found out after reading about it, that’s a tactic the democrats use so when the “real” numbers come, they can show that there was little interest in the rally.
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09/12/09 - 01:49 PM
No Spin says...
56 original signers in 1776 made this nation a nation… Glen Beck has it right when he proposes to find 56 out 535 in Congress, from either party, who are willing to clean up the mess..

Special Interest, corruption from Barney Frank to Chris Dodd to so many in the GOP, all of it needs to STOP

I do not care if you Like Bush or Hate Obama damn it… it is time to find a way to unite this country and throw the ACORN’S, SEIU’s and others of this world into the sewer where they belong..

Ok.. I feel better now..
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09/12/09 - 01:50 PM
No Spin says...
whom..

whom.. REAL Americans will listen to the voices from both sides.. REAL Americans will wake up soon and stop the purge…
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09/12/09 - 01:56 PM
whomeye says...
oh i can’t wait til monday when the liberals “bash” beck. interestingly though, if you listen to him on a regular basis, he’s against both parties who are throwing this country down the garbage disposal. the liberals instead state he’s a right wing “conservative” against obama. very funny…
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09/12/09 - 02:04 PM
No Spin says...
Maddows was actually giggling at him yesterday and repeating in a little girls voice “You Lie, You Lie, You Lie” as she attempted to describe what the “Conservative” movement had adapted as it’s rallying cry… It was so childish, sophomoric,and downright silly, that Murrow is probably screaming from his grave!
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09/12/09 - 02:28 PM
No Spin says...
whom

I just listened to Sebillius at the Obama Speech in Minnesota as she said “Tens of thousands were here today”..

So I checked… the Xcel Energy Center ONLY seats 18,000 when it is FULL!!

Trust me… you will all hear this repeated over and over again as the Libs try to counter the masses in DC, Texas and at rallies across the country today…
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09/12/09 - 02:48 PM
RealSteve says...
No Spin

Get it right, that’s Ms. MadCow.

Also while listening to her realize that she is gay and that colors many of her opinions and commentary, in the same way Tony Perkins of Focus on the Family has his comments based on what he believes.
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09/12/09 - 02:55 PM
No Spin says...
Obama’s own staff admitted a crowd of 15,000 only and then used the Gophers and Twins games as the reason there were not more… LOL…

I GUARANTEE you that Dem Talking points will include an extremely generous crowd count for Obama’s Speech…
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09/12/09 - 03:04 PM
No Spin says...
RS

I listened to her once, I am fine with that…
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09/12/09 - 03:08 PM
RealSteve says...
NS

She used to have a radio show on Air America, actually for a liberal she’s pretty smart. Sense going to MSObama she’s amped up the Liberal act a whole lot.
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09/12/09 - 03:16 PM
No Spin says...
Intellect usually includes being an adult, not acting like a child because you don’t agree with someone’s politics..

She may be very intelligent, but she disrespects what she knows by her actions.. it was childish..
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09/12/09 - 03:47 PM
Jeanne says...
Oh no spin. You are original!! The mightly 4 conservatives on this blog. You are being defeated, you do know that, right?!?!?

The worst thing I ever did in my life was to support Frank. The things he said, I will never excuse.
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09/12/09 - 03:58 PM
No Spin says...
Jeanne..

Who is Frank?

Defeated? What contest am I in? I did not even know I was in a contest… what is the score and who is keeping it?

Oh and I almost forgot.. Nice to see you in here again Jeanne..
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09/12/09 - 04:08 PM
Randy Hall says...
NS, I think she means America, we’ve lost our country to Obama and company. Where a tax cheat is in charge of the economy. And Frank, yah who’s Frank?
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09/12/09 - 04:16 PM
No Spin says...
RS

Barney Frank Maybe?? I am not losing anything.. America is winning because this illusionist has revealed himself to be as hard left as anyone we have ever seen… and he is being caught in his lies… Oops.. I’m sorry..He does not lie, he massages the English language to mean what HE wants each word to mean..

EXAMPLE:

SAVED JOBS = Oops, I screwed the pooch on my "Unemployment won’t get bigger than 8% prediction

JOBS WE WOULD HAVE LOST IF THE STIMULUS BILL WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED = Damn it, the American public is seeing that we cannot manage anything and the money went to special interests, so let me change the focus…

And in the words of the Immortal Sonny Bono “The Beat Goes On”
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09/12/09 - 04:21 PM
RealSteve says...
Randy

And what are Republicans offering that’s any better?

Alaska Barbie….You Betcha ?

It’s just not good enough any more to point out that Democrats are corrupt, or as big a hypocrites as Republicans are, everyone knows that. What does a Republican offer as a solution, or is being the party of NO enough? You Betcha?
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09/12/09 - 04:27 PM
Randy Hall says...
RS, you answer your own question. Maybe you could join Facebook and watch George Runner and Steve Knight. You would see some very serious Republicans there, and you might gain some hope for the future. Otherwise wake up mad as hell each and every day. That attitude got us Obama the community organizer in chief.
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09/12/09 - 04:31 PM
No Spin says...
RS

As I posted earlier..

“56 original signers in 1776 made this nation a nation… Glen Beck has it right when he proposes to find 56 out 535 in Congress, from either party, who are willing to clean up the mess..
Special Interest, corruption from Barney Frank to Chris Dodd to so many in the GOP, all of it needs to STOP
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09/12/09 - 04:32 PM
RealSteve says...
Randy

Can you name one piece of serious legislation that George Runner put on the table besides his version of Jessica’s law? Maybe George and the Mega Church wing of the Republican party appeals to you, but not me. Knight appears to be cutting a different path, so there is hope as you say, of course Sharon Runner was not the most effective Assembly member now was she?
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09/12/09 - 05:05 PM
Ray Cunneff says...
The ‘Frank’ Jeanne refers to is Frank Jorge, the leader of the Antelope Valley Independent Minutemen, a group, that included ‘marino’, opposing illegal immigration.

We were both supporters and attended several rallys (at some risk). But Jeanne was unable to condone the anti-Obama attacks. We both see Obama as our Commander-in-Chief and find the incessant attacks on him un-American and un-patriotic. If that removes us from support of the AVIMM, so be it.
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09/12/09 - 05:12 PM
No Spin says...
BTW: I have never met Frank Jorge and have no clue who he is..

RAY: Where were you and Jeanne when the attacks on Bush, which were brutal, were going on? Did you think those were also Un-American and Un-patriotic?

I must have missed all those POSTS in here where you and Jeanne were expressing your outrage…

Any chance you saved them so I could see them
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09/12/09 - 05:25 PM
No Spin says...
Sorry..I forgot the ?? at the end of the last sentence… I am always afraid Ray will question my education if I make a grammatical error …

But forgive me please because I think my stomach hurting from my laughing at the hypocrisy of RAY calling anyone who protests Obama Un-American and Un-Patriotic while he and his wife were mutes, except when they led the pack, for the persistent and vile BUSH BASHING that has gone on in here for years..

Gotta give him credit though..it takes brass balls to be that phony..
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09/12/09 - 05:28 PM
No Spin says...
And then there were all those commentaries where Ray Ranted on his show, blasting the Bush Administration over and over again..

How is that American and Patriotic but protesting Obama is not?

Damn it.. I knew if I had gotten my damn BA Degree I would be “Smarticle” enough to figure this complicated political stuff out…
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09/12/09 - 05:52 PM
No Spin says...
WOW.. I have been so wrong about CNN… been looking in on them every now and then today and they are much more balanced than I thought.. it is GREAT to be wrong…in this case..

WOW.. I have been so wrong about CNN… been looking in on them every now and then today and they are much more balanced than I thought.. it is GREAT to be wrong…in this case..Wolf Blitzer show right now is showing a very fair Laura Bush Interview..
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09/12/09 - 05:56 PM
138hwy says...
Oh wow! 2 fascist libs have dropped out of the immigration movement..wah-wah..Good riddance. cineff used Frank Jorge in an attempt to garner ratings for his station. Fact is, the ultra leftist had absolutely NO listeners, lest Frank Jorge gave him a break and called the show.
Also note that conservative callers were usually screened and COULD NOT call into the “air america” love fest.
Don’t let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out!
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09/12/09 - 06:03 PM
138hwy says...
I am sure that Frank Jorge cares one whit that the cineff’s “dropped out” because Mr. Jorge does not accept Obama and his wife’s racism.
Nor does Mr. Jorge agree on (open borders). I don’t know Mr. Jorge that well, but I do know that he won’t lose any sleep over it.
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09/12/09 - 07:06 PM
No Spin says...
Sounds neat 138, can I watch?
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09/12/09 - 07:24 PM
Have Faith says...
The blog was first I’ve heard of it. I’ve had to work and nit been wT hing the news. Questioned the legitimacy of the video because I have seen nonews, only the videos here.

No argument we hire and have, pRticularly in the inner city, some of the unedycated people. I get them in the stores, on the phone. Not surpised at her ig orange. That whole butt hanging out culture is like another planet to ne. Not surprised she thinks that what she sees and hears everyday, in front of her house, is normal. TrGic yes surprising no.
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09/12/09 - 07:26 PM
138hwy says...
NS.
That was not me above, but I was advised thru a PM that most likely it is cineff who “plays the doppelanger.”
Other doppelangers are realfatracist steve and chuck clay.
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09/12/09 - 07:29 PM
Have Faith says...
What is a dopplewhatsit.
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09/12/09 - 07:31 PM
Have Faith says...
It would be Bacardi but I’m not there yet. Had to wrk tofday.
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09/12/09 - 07:32 PM
Have Faith says...
That’s a good idea. 10-99
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09/12/09 - 07:47 PM
marino says...
Insults towards bloggers will be deleted.
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09/12/09 - 07:49 PM
Have Faith says...
Now that takes all the fucking fun out of it. And how will you choose. You know it when you see it?
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09/12/09 - 07:54 PM
138hwy says...
Marino..
Since when?
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09/12/09 - 08:00 PM
marino says...
Ray: “…find the incessant attacks on him (Obama) un-American and un-patriotic.”

That’s how millions felt about the attacks on Bush.

So a small part of my pointing out Obama’s past and current events is due to the crap Bush recieved.

Most of it is due to all Obama’s baggage. He’s got a truckload. So I hope people don’t take it personal when I voice my opinion when I say Obama is a detrimental jackass as a politician.

You yourself, Ray, had plenty to say about Bush. And I didn’t take it personal. It was your heartfelt opinion.
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09/12/09 - 08:05 PM
marino says...
Billy, since forever.

It ruins discussion.
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09/12/09 - 08:07 PM
138hwy says...
Marino..
That’s where you are dead wrong. To folks like cineff, it IS personal.
Cineff had daily tirades against Mr. Bush on his tiny radio show, before they fired him. Now, cineff and the wife get “all tingly” about the racist, therefore nary a word about the destruction that this administration is causing.
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09/12/09 - 08:08 PM
marino says...
You go to most any other site and there are no attacks because those that do it are banned in 2 seconds. It’s almost too sensitive. But this site has NO CONTROL. Nothing. I can only control my own blog.

Billy, someone posted something here about Hob being your daddy. I deleted it. It adds nothing and ruins the topic.
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09/12/09 - 08:11 PM
marino says...
Billy, I know Ray said stuff about Bush. It was his opinion. We should attack politicians, not each other.

Politicians are open game.
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09/12/09 - 08:12 PM
Have Faith says...
Rfu. T g. Rfbk. I. Db. Ci. I deleted he attack part of my post for you Marino. Happy to help.
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09/12/09 - 08:13 PM
Have Faith says...
Sorry. Off topic. I’ll start a blog called. No topic, any topic. Come here to shoot the shit.
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09/12/09 - 08:14 PM
marino says...
Have Faith. I’ll decide by how entertained I am when reading. If it’s a lame blogfest, I’m deleting it. If it’s original and funny, I’m loading up on popcorn.

How’s that?
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09/12/09 - 08:15 PM
marino says...
HF. You’ve never attacked me, so nothing to delete.
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09/12/09 - 08:15 PM
Have Faith says...
Sounds fine.
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09/12/09 - 08:18 PM
marino says...
I don’t care if it’s off topic. Here’s something off topic.

Check out Wippy’s Coffee DriveThru. They’ve got great sandwich combos, great blended drinks, at a great price. Between Ave. K and Ave. L on Business Center Parkway (Next to CountryWide).

See? That’s off topic.
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09/12/09 - 08:19 PM
marino says...
Open M-F 6:30-5
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09/12/09 - 08:22 PM
Have Faith says...
Whipp it good.
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09/12/09 - 08:23 PM
marino says...
Damn straight. On the rocks or blended.
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09/12/09 - 08:24 PM
138hwy says...
Marino..
The “Hob” post probably was from doppelanger cineff. Someone confidentially told me it was cineff.
Why delete tho? Some man who is around 67 years old and using other names is quite bizzare. This is usually from some teeny bopper. lol
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09/12/09 - 08:25 PM
Have Faith says...
That Acorn shit is for real? Are they charging that stupid employee? At least tell me they cured her. Is there evidence that higher ups knew what was going on?
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09/12/09 - 08:27 PM
marino says...
I’m sure higher ups knew what was going on and just looked away. Some of them had to know.

I hear 4 employees were fired. So only a few thousand more to go!
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09/12/09 - 08:27 PM
Have Faith says...
I need another drink but last time I went to the kitchen I got asked to do two chores and it took half a hour. Gotto risk it.
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09/12/09 - 08:28 PM
marino says...
I believe Obama is about to hold a press conference condemning Acorn.

Bahahahahaha….sure.
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09/12/09 - 08:29 PM
marino says...
HF. Hahaha….take an extra drink to your desktop so you don’t have to go back as often.
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09/12/09 - 08:30 PM
whomeye says...
what time and channel?
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09/12/09 - 08:32 PM
whomeye says...
i don’t see anything on foxnews or cnn. hey, any of you guys noticing how slow foxnews website is? it’s driving me crazy!
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09/12/09 - 08:33 PM
Have Faith says...
I meant fire her. Not cure her. Lol. The autocorrect on this is funny. I read my posts and have a good laugh. Wish they could cutre her.

Is there evidence it’s going on all over, at all locations.
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09/12/09 - 08:34 PM
marino says...
What time and channel for what? You wanna good laugh, go watch MSNBC for a few minute. Matthews drools when he talks about Prez O.
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09/12/09 - 08:53 PM
whomeye says...
marino, you said nobama was going to comment on acorn and i wanted to find you what time.
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09/12/09 - 09:03 PM
Have Faith says...
Looked it up and it is doppleGanger.
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09/12/09 - 09:04 PM
Have Faith says...
It’s like he has turretts. Blog turrets
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09/12/09 - 09:56 PM
marino says...
whomeye, Obama would never comment on Acorn.
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09/12/09 - 10:19 PM
Have Faith says...
I think he will. I think his style is to step up to the podium to say, there is corruption and ignorance in our world, in our country, and in our towns. It is incumbent on us to bear witness, to prosecute crime, and to educate ourselves. This was sheer ignorance and lawlessness. It will not be tolerated.

Whatever else we can say about obama he us a straightforward honest man.
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09/12/09 - 10:27 PM
marino says...
Obama’s a straightforward honest man? When? Proof?
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09/12/09 - 10:30 PM
Have Faith says...
I’m reminded of the interview where he was asked if he did drugs in college and he said yes I made lots of bad decisions when I was young. He didn’t say he didn’t inhale.
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09/12/09 - 10:41 PM
Have Faith says...
It’s my I
pression. What’s yours. With proof.
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09/12/09 - 11:22 PM
marino says...
Yes, he said he smoked pot and used cocaine.

Example of one lie is when he said he didn’t hear anything radical said at Trinity while he attended.

He later said Wright was controvercial.

The whole point is he quit Trinity because there was a chance he could become president.
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09/12/09 - 11:38 PM
No Spin says...
Notice how RAY comes in here, posts his sludge and then vanishes? Get’s all pissed off because this Jorge guy does not like Obama and Ray goes off the deep end.. yet for the past 5 years AT LEAST, he has been party to and participated in sliming Bush in here often and certainly was very consistent is his attacks against the entire administration on he and Amir’s radio show..

That is what brought me here originally.. I wanted to lodge a complaint as a LISTENER and got hammered by him and Jeanne for daring to criticize his show… Amir was great… he emailed me a thank you and, as an ADULT and Gentleman, explained to me why the show was formatted the way it was.. I still stopped listening but did appreciate how he handled it..

And a couple of months later, the show was cancelled..

So just to summarize for all…

It is Patriotic and American to call Bush a Liar and a Murderer, question and make fun of his intellect… but if you DARE to criticize Hussein Obama, you will suffer from the wrath of Ray and you are Un-American and
Un-Patriotic…
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09/12/09 - 11:50 PM
marino says...
No Spin,

What I find odd is that they supported Frank Jorge until he spoke out against Obama. I know Frank and he spoke out against Bush also. He didn’t agree with the war or Bush’s stance on illegal immigration. Told me he thought Bush was an asshole.

Unless I’m not understanding, there seems to be a double standard. Speaking out against Bush is ok, but speaking out against Obama is a no no.
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09/13/09 - 12:01 AM
lancaster says...
no one said not to speak out against obama. just give facts, instead of ALL THOSE FEELINGS!
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09/13/09 - 12:03 AM
lancaster says...
AND I DON’T HAVE A CLUE ON WHO FRANK JORGE IS.
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09/13/09 - 12:05 AM
No Spin says...
lancaster…

DO you ever read what is POSTED?
Here is what RAY posted:

09/12/09 – 05:05 PM
Ray Cunneff says…
The ‘Frank’ Jeanne refers to is Frank Jorge, the leader of the Antelope Valley Independent Minutemen, a group, that included ‘marino’, opposing illegal immigration.

We were both supporters and attended several rallys (at some risk). But Jeanne was unable to condone the anti-Obama attacks. We both see Obama as our Commander-in-Chief and find the incessant attacks on him un-American and un-patriotic. If that removes us from support of the AVIMM, so be it."
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09/13/09 - 12:09 AM
No Spin says...
Marino

So to be against Illegal Immigration to the point that you actually show up and help the AVMM must mean you have a passion for the issue… but with Ray and Jeanne, the passion dies if you say “mean” things about Hussein…

Wow…. oh but go ahead and call Bush anything you want to… that is okie dokie..
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09/13/09 - 12:11 AM
lancaster says...
u complain about the libs, but every point brought up you attack the blogger. was that u that said because u had tears in ur eyes u were more patriotic then others?
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09/13/09 - 12:14 AM
No Spin says...
lancaster..

Never posted that I was a Bush Supporter.. there you go again..

“Hooked On Phonics”… you REALLY need to get the program…
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09/13/09 - 12:15 AM
lancaster says...
then why complain when someone points out what a idiot he was?
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09/13/09 - 12:15 AM
marino says...
lanacaster, if you would check out the thread (9/12 5:05PM) you might understand. No Spin is refering to those that feel it’s wrong to speak out against Obama but ok that they spoke out against Bush.

People distancing themselves from Frank George because George spoke out against Obama, while they were cool when he spoke out against Bush.

At 7:47 I wrote, “insults against bloggers will be deleted”.

Spin makes references to those speaking out aa somethypocritical situation
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09/13/09 - 12:19 AM
No Spin says...
Night all… See you in a week…

I am outta this damn desert for Big Sur until Saturday!!
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09/13/09 - 12:21 AM
marino says...
Have fun Spin.
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09/13/09 - 12:22 AM
lancaster says...
i get the thread marino! once again, kinda like when u said “parents didn’t care when bush spoke to the school childern”. we don’t care about speaking out against bush because he was a idiot.
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09/13/09 - 12:30 AM
marino says...
I don’t care that you speak out against Bush. I don’t take it personal.

Noone should take it personal that I prove Obama’s scum. I just don’t understand why people defend this guy.
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09/13/09 - 12:37 AM
marino says...
Lanacster, this Obama video makes Bush look like Reagan. You know it’s funny. If this were Bush, they’d play it on MSLSD on a daily basis.


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09/13/09 - 01:03 AM
lancaster says...
unlike bush talking about gynecologist, talking of thier love of woman. u see a clown. i see a tired man who can laugh at himself.
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09/13/09 - 01:19 AM
lancaster says...
i see u post comments here marino. i see u hate obama. but maybe u can see what some of us see. maybe u can’t.

we see a man who was raised in a rough situtation. someone who was raised with less then. and through hard work and personal restistent he got into a good school. no silver spoon or a daddy that paid for a new library.
someone who may have a clue as to what the commen people go through on a daily basis.
u want to complain that he used coke and pot in college? i can live with someone who was on the street seeing what our kids see on a daily basis.

you want to think of him as a liar. and i want to think of him as someone who has a clue.

you want complain about a stimulis package and a healthcare bill that will cost over a trillion.

i want to see a trillion that is spent on this country instead of a country that we have carpet bombed. to me healthcare is worth it.

i understand why u all might be afraid of debt, but WHERE WERE YOU when we started 2 wars that our childern will pay for?

ur question was were where we when people bitched about bush?

our question is where were u when we were bithchen about bush?
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09/13/09 - 01:40 AM
lancaster says...
no comment marino?
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09/13/09 - 01:57 AM
lancaster says...
and NS bitchen about ray posten and running!
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09/13/09 - 02:06 AM
marino says...
I don’t waste my energy on hate. Believe it, or, I don’t care. I’ve said I wouldn’t mind hanging out with Obama shooting the shit, havin’ a beer, talking basketball, whatever.

But as far as him being president, he has no business being there. And it’s not his fault he’s there.

Too bad the first black president couldn’t have been one of many better choices, and I believe you would agree.

Personally, when 3000 were killed on 9/11, I had a problem with Bush taking too long to send troops out there and killing those governments that were involved and in support of the 9/11 massacare. Any country that supported 9/11 in any way, I wanted them to be taught a lesson. You may not agree with the way I felt and what I wanted done, but that’s how I felt.

Obama was against the war, and now he seems to be for it along with his supporters. I find that highly hypocritical.

I am 100% against re-distribution. That’s me.

What I couln’t stand about Bush was, as I’ve said all along, his illegal immigration stance, and his spending. Both out of control. I voted for him twice and would never vote for him again based on that.

I was and still am all for the war. I support Obama on his current Afghanastan policies.

I’m totally against Cash for Clunkers because that is taxpayer money throw away. If GM fails, we shouldn’t bail them out. Let business’ fail that can’t hang, and what you have left is successful business’.

I’ve don’t hate Obama. Don’t believe me. I don’t care.

My best friend for 24 years now is a liberal. He hammered Bush Sr while I was defending him. I hammered Clinton while he defended him. We spent maybe 1 percent of our time together talking politics.

I don’t hate liberals. Extremists from both sides are nuts and should be ignored.
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09/13/09 - 02:17 AM
marino says...
Lancaster,

Liberals and conservatives are equally good people. I’ve met Ray and his wife Jeanne, Denise, Guy, Billy, PK, Matt, Annette, and others that blog here and they are all great folks.

I will hammer Obama until he’s out of the WhiteHouse. If someone has a problem with that, then I feel sorry for them. Hammer away at Bush or Palin or…whomever.
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09/13/09 - 02:30 AM
marino says...
Lancaster says, “and NS bitchen about Ray posten and running.”

I went to Albertsons. Relax.
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09/13/09 - 11:08 AM
Have Faith says...
Redistribution is crap until it’s your family that needs it. Get real. Bust out of your black white reality and get real again.

Nospin yeah we agree there’s a need for change, a need to bust the corruption of govt, but we disagree how, and what results would be acceptable to us. Truth is libs and rights are scared of what reform means.
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09/13/09 - 11:39 AM
annette tappa says...
Marino, you too… :)
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09/13/09 - 12:37 PM
lancaster says...
and i believe iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
i also believe that if the community is good to u, u need to give back.
in taxes.
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09/13/09 - 12:39 PM
Have Faith says...
And give and give and give. Just kidding. I believe in taxes I think it’s excessive tho.
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09/13/09 - 12:54 PM
lancaster says...
and that if we were to go into Afghanistan, we needed a exit plan. the
USSR spent ten years there with nothing but dead people to show for it.
once again, there will be no easy answer for Afghanistan. they are fighting us with the arms we gave bin laden to fight russia. we armed the guys that destroyed that country, taking out the leadership, and allowing the talaban, a ultra conservative religious group to take over.

now 7yrs later an exit plan is so besides the point.

and there are 3 in congress that are fighting obama on any troop build up.
they are collins, shaheen, and feinstein. all dems. they are speaking for many on the left who want no more troops sent. so people are speaking out against the build up by obama.
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09/13/09 - 12:58 PM
lancaster says...
and obama is a man. not a god.
he was handed a mess, that if there were easy answers to,they would have been fixed before he came to office.

but they weren’t. so here we are.
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09/13/09 - 01:05 PM
roxi says...
lancaster:
they are fighting us with the arms we gave bin laden to fight russia. we armed the guys that destroyed that country, taking out the leadership, and allowing the talaban, a ultra conservative religious group to take over.

Yes, the same thing happened in Viet Nam – our soldiers being killed by US weapons given to the So. who in turn deflected and joined the No.

Time to prosecute the ones responsible for 9/11.
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09/13/09 - 01:10 PM
roxi says...
There was no incentive to end the war(s) b4 Obama took office. No incentive to balance the budget, or give back, or pay back the taxpayers for the wars.

Either we should pull back – or recruit other countries for more involvement. Otherwise we will go bankrupt.
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09/13/09 - 01:10 PM
lancaster says...
i tell u roxi, it’s like we never learn.
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09/13/09 - 01:14 PM
RealSteve says...
roxi

So the next smoking hole in America caused by an Islamic terrorist, can we name it after Barrack Obama?

How will you blame Bush for it?
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09/13/09 - 01:15 PM
lancaster says...
but the bad guys go between afganistan and pakistan. so other countrys to fight the war won’t take care of the problem.
building these 2 countrys, and helping the 2.5 million refugees from iraq get a future will be the only thing that will bring this to an end.

men who have nothing to lose will always find it easier to pick up a gun.
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09/13/09 - 01:16 PM
lancaster says...
RS, no one is suggesting we not protect our country.
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09/13/09 - 01:18 PM
lancaster says...
getting bin ladan would probably be a good thing.
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09/13/09 - 01:19 PM
roxi says...
Nation building is an interesting concept. There are those who say that because the North did not help the South in reconstruction after the Civil War, it caused the South to be bitter towards the north-hence what we have today: ie: South Carolina. We also helped Germany and Italy rebuild, as we realized from previous experiences not to ignore countries we bombed out-because it would come back and bite us in the butt.

no, we never learn. We never learn that death & destruction just brings on more of the same. As my grannie said b4 she died, who was born in 1874, soon after the Civil War: ’there’s been a war somewhere in this world every day of my life’. She remembered how the Yankees came and blew up their kitchen and robbed all the art & silver from the house. She and my GGrandmother hid in the basement. Huge resentments still stewed with her against the north….seems, with reason.

And then she voted for Wilson! Go figure.
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09/13/09 - 01:20 PM
lancaster says...
but tell us RS, what would u do?
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09/13/09 - 01:22 PM
lancaster says...
when people have loved ones maimed and killed, when there is no food, shelter, or security, there will be people that resort to the fight.
can’t say i wouldn’t be the same.
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09/13/09 - 01:22 PM
RealSteve says...
lancaster

Well Obama now owns the government which is charged with keeping us safe now, his policies on how and under what rules those agencies operate will be judged harshly if this country is attacked again.

Bush made the GWOT, Obama is making the Global Law Enforcement effort on people who may or may not like us very much, but lets give them the benefit of the doubt and the full protection of our legal system.
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09/13/09 - 01:24 PM
RealSteve says...
lancaster

I sure as hell would not be going after, or allowing my AG to go after the CIA for one thing. I sure as hell would not be closing Gitmo. I sure as hell would not be reading Miranda rights to people who hate this country and want to destroy us.
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09/13/09 - 01:30 PM
lancaster says...
i agree that we shouldn’t be going after cia in the field. just like the bottom of the rung guys that are in jail NOW from abu gru(sp). bush put them in jail but it was rumsfeldt that gave the order.

i would go after the guys u voted for. im hopeing holden goes through with that.

but how we treat people, will be how OUR people our treated. i don’t want my guys tourtured.

gitmo was our shame and had to be closed.
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09/13/09 - 01:30 PM
roxi says...
RS: How will you blame Bush for it?

Well, just keep an eye on Darth Vader….Bush was a pawn.
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09/13/09 - 01:34 PM
lancaster says...
and i REALLY REALLY agree with that roxi.
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09/13/09 - 01:35 PM
RealSteve says...
lancaster

When there is an attack on this country, not when, and it comes out that the CIA was hamstrung and timid because of liberals like you and Obama, the country will turn their back on liberal nonsense.

Right now in Afghanistan people caught on the battle field are being read their Miranda rights before being interrogated using techniques of the Army Field manual. That will only last until some left winger decides that the Army field manual is torture too.

To be clear here, anyone who tries to attack my country is someone who forfeits all rights…they are dead and the sooner the better.
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09/13/09 - 01:38 PM
lancaster says...
bush having to be in bed by 9 every night, and not wanting to read TO MUCH, worked out well for cheney.
speaking of going after the top guy!

he of course destroyed many in the field. the little guys that RS seems to care about.
ritter, wilson, v.plame, richard clark.
anyone who stood up with facts showing why we had no need to go into iraq.
this is his war.
and of course it kept us from going after bin ladan and al quida
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09/13/09 - 01:40 PM
lancaster says...
then attack the right country RS.
don’t u get that iraq had NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11?
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09/13/09 - 01:41 PM
lancaster says...
and i can see an iraqi saying exactly what u just said. and being right.

what do u think we did to them?
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09/13/09 - 01:42 PM
lancaster says...
we were attacked with a liberal in office. no war and the guys who did it are in jail. see clinton.
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09/13/09 - 01:44 PM
roxi says...
Uh, I think they’re using the Army Field manual that was issued during the Bush administration…. But, yeah-that’s nuts in a war situation!

RS, you’re being flip with statements that your own fellow Americans, now in power would judge the Army field manual as torture…. Says nothing.

I sincerely doubt that this administration is hamstringing the CIA. We all know that the torture techniques ‘came from the top’ in the Bush Admin. This current Admin. is including the CIA ‘back in the loop’…where they should be.
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09/13/09 - 01:51 PM
marino says...
Obama has to deal with Iraq and Afg. What do you suggest he do? The ball’s in his hands. Can’t blame Bush for Obama’s next decision.
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09/13/09 - 01:57 PM
lancaster says...
so do u support his bringing in more troops marino. or are u with the dems that are fighting a buildup?
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09/13/09 - 01:58 PM
marino says...
What torture technique? Waterboarding isn’t torture.

Torture is Islamo fascist nutjobs posting videos of beheadings. That’s torture. Waterboarding saves lives and is hardly torture.

You want to see a beheading? You want to see real torture? I could post a vid here right now. You wouldn’t be able to watch it.

We treat insurgent prisoners better than our own prisoners here in the states. Democrats want to give that scum in civies that fire while hiding behind women and children Miranda rights. Give me a break.
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09/13/09 - 02:01 PM
roxi says...
I say suit up the arm-chair generals who started this mess and send them over to finish it off. Am not being flip with this statement-as I really DO feel that since they started it, they ought to finish it.
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09/13/09 - 02:01 PM
marino says...
Lancaster, I don’t know enough about what’s going on there to make a decision. Obama’s got the inside scoop, so I’m hoping he’ll make the right decision.

I thought we’d have enough Iraqis and Afghans trained by now so we can start pulling out, but what do I know.
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09/13/09 - 02:01 PM
lancaster says...
so it’s okay with u, marino, to have our troops waterboarded?
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09/13/09 - 02:04 PM
lancaster says...
ive seen the vids.
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09/13/09 - 02:04 PM
roxi says...
marino:
Waterboarding saves lives and is hardly torture.

Wow! Maybe we can include those techniques in the next Jr. Lifesaving classes?
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09/13/09 - 02:06 PM
marino says...
What the fuck kind of question is that? Ask Al Qaeda!

Is it alright for whom to waterboard our troops? They behead people. They wouldn’t waste their time waterboarding American troops. That would be a joke to them.
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09/13/09 - 02:07 PM
lancaster says...
really marino, are u gonna tell our troops their fine when they’re being waterboarded?
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09/13/09 - 02:08 PM
marino says...
Is it ok for Islamo fascists to behead Americans?
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09/13/09 - 02:09 PM
marino says...
No, lanc. I’m gonna tell our troops to sling lead.
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09/13/09 - 02:11 PM
lancaster says...
we were supposed to stand for something. we were supposed to be better then the people that beheaded people. we wrote the geneva convention.

we’ve lost that.
and it’s a legit question marino. if waterboarding is not torture, are u ok with it happening to our troops?
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09/13/09 - 02:12 PM
marino says...
What’s the prognosis for someone that gets waterboarded. Do they have permanent injuries? Even Islamo nutjobs need an occasional bath. They probably enjoy the fresh H2o.
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09/13/09 - 02:14 PM
marino says...
Islamo manics don’t play to no Geneva convention rules, so when we’re up against them we legally don’t have to abide by them. Those are the rules.

Who are you trying to protect? Them or us?
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09/13/09 - 02:16 PM
lancaster says...
the one thing i agree with cheney on is to release the intellegence that proves lives were saved with torture.
the cia has been quite on his statements. the few that have said otherwise have stated they got more intellegence playing a game of chess with detaines.
i hope obama makes it public, but it will probably be so bad that it will bring us more enemies in the world.
in the name of freedom we have lost our souls.
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09/13/09 - 02:24 PM
RealSteve says...
roxi

Well I hope we don’t find out of the CIA is hamstrung or not. I can tell you that thinking that a liberal AG might just want to investigate someone following orders that they have been assured are legal, see here’s the opinion, tends to make people nervous to the point they don’t take chances.

So if you’re wrong, and this country is attacked again, how will you blame Bush for causing this attack? Your guy Obama now owns the store, if it fails how will you blame someone else?
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09/13/09 - 02:25 PM
lancaster says...
those aren’t the rules. and those who don’t play by them are the bad guys.
we are supposed to be better then our enemies.
we have lost any moral authority!
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09/13/09 - 02:26 PM
lancaster says...
once again RS. see clinton
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09/13/09 - 02:28 PM
marino says...
Troops hands are tied. They can’t even fire until fired upon. Troops have to play by politically correct rules while the ones they fight are doing so with bare knuckles, no rules, anything goes. Insurgnts killing Muslims. That’s how most Muslims die by far. Suicide bombs. They aren’t true Muslims, just manics with an agenda.
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09/13/09 - 02:30 PM
lancaster says...
we had seven yrs with no hand tying.
so why haven’t we won?
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09/13/09 - 02:31 PM
lancaster says...
and the more important question is, what do u consider winning?
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09/13/09 - 02:34 PM
lancaster says...
the saying “those who live by the sword, die by the sword”, comes to mind.
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09/13/09 - 02:37 PM
roxi says...
09/13/09 – 02:28 PM
marino says…
Troops hands are tied. They can’t even fire until fired upon. Troops have to play by politically correct rules while the ones they fight are doing so with bare knuckles, no rules, anything goes. Insurgnts killing Muslims. That’s how most Muslims die by far. Suicide bombs. They aren’t true Muslims, just manics with an agenda.

The hand-tying sounds like what went on in Viet Nam. Perhaps this is what happens when arm-chair Generals ‘direct’ a war. Yes, it’s not your usual war, like WWII. All the better to get American GI’s outta there and fight them with drones and TECHNOLOGY.
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09/13/09 - 02:40 PM
marino says...
.“…and to immediately remove our combat troops, not in 6 month to a year, but now.”

Did he lie? Or just change his mind?


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09/13/09 - 02:43 PM
roxi says...
ha-I don’t usually look at your UTube videos because I live out in the hinterlands/no high speed.
I can guess tho, that yes, Obama HAD to change his mind, once he was briefed on what’s really going on….after he was elected.
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09/13/09 - 02:44 PM
RealSteve says...
lancaster

Hmmm…explain why I care about “moral authority” when I’m dead?

It’s the usual Liberal mind set that if only we makes nice everyone will love us. Next time you are being robbed at gun point, make nice and let me know how that worked, if you live.
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09/13/09 - 02:46 PM
lancaster says...
or will this take a well thought out approach.
once again, i HOPE what obama is doing , is trying to stabilize the country enough were we can pull our troops out.
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09/13/09 - 02:49 PM
lancaster says...
really RS. does any thing go? there are many things i would rather die then do. the list is endless.
there are many things worse then death. selling my soul would be on top of the list.
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09/13/09 - 02:49 PM
RealSteve says...
lancaster

Obama is trying to figure out how to cut and run without enraging those few moderates that actually still think he’s not a communist or worse.
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09/13/09 - 02:52 PM
roxi says...
Right, dead is dead.
I still think we are smarter than them. We need to stop reacting and pro-act. WE have the technology, they don’t. No, being nice gets you no where – in any scenerio, imho.
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09/13/09 - 02:55 PM
RealSteve says...
lancaster

The rules of war as codified under the Geneva convention are pretty clear, but when you are fighting someone who is not part of a organized army, wearing indistinct clothes that’s where there is a problem.

When a terrorist is caught trying to set a bomb up in Afghanistan, wearing street clothes what should our military do?

Obama and Liberals appear to think we should read him his Miranda rights and treat this as law enforcement issue. I’m all for standing terrorists up caught in the act and shooting them.

I’m probably hard core enough to want the same thing for gang bangers here in the US. Catch them in the act of say a drive by shooting, save us the money of a trial and shoot them on the spot and be done with their asses.
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09/13/09 - 02:57 PM
Have Faith says...
Latest news, a naked dead Iraqi found abandoned in a ditch after torture by us soldier. First of the nine principles, America is good. Someone asked on this blog site aren’t Iraqis better off now than under Hussein. Well?
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09/13/09 - 02:59 PM
roxi says...
marino:
Obama is trying to figure out how to cut and run without enraging those few moderates that actually still think he’s not a communist or worse.

Oh boy, here we go with the ‘commie-pinko’ statements again. Reminds me of the 60’s when people against Viet Nam were called pinkos. Reminds me of the McCarthy era…..Now the tea-baggers feel like the libs are accusing them of being ‘commie-pinko’s’….!

Geesh, who’s left? The Baptists?!
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09/13/09 - 03:00 PM
lancaster says...
well RS. i’m glad u aren’t in charge of our police.
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09/13/09 - 03:03 PM
lancaster says...
marino, now ur saying if obama keeps his promise to bring the troops home he’s cutting and running.

u’ve set him up rather well. if he keeps his promise he’s wrong, and if he stays he’s a liar. hmmmm
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09/13/09 - 03:08 PM
marino says...
I’m just quoting him. Said he’d pull troops out immediately. Not in 6 months to a year. He’s been prez for over 6 months. What is he going to do? Do you know?
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09/13/09 - 03:09 PM
lancaster says...
no responce? just as well, i’ve got chores to do.
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09/13/09 - 03:10 PM
lancaster says...
just what i stated as my hope. see above.
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09/15/09 - 10:49 AM
marino says...
Yet another (3rd) Acorn Child Prostitution video. This one in NYC.


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09/15/09 - 10:53 AM
marino says...
New ACORN video. Part 2.


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09/15/09 - 10:57 AM
whomeye says...
watch glenn beck today, he said there’s something we need to watch re. acorn. i’m not sure if it’s the third video, but he did speak about it yesterday. i have a funny feeling it’s a forth one. if you can’t watch it at 2pm, dvr it like me.
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09/15/09 - 11:00 AM
marino says...
I bet it’s a 4th one.

Good news is that the Senate just voted 83-7 to cut funding to ACORN. Obviously due to these vids.

I’d like the names to those 7 that voted for continued funding.
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09/15/09 - 11:14 AM
marino says...
Barack Obama. A corrupt President. These are his people, these are the Democrats grassroots. Sad.
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09/15/09 - 11:45 AM
marino says...
These ACORN Reps will soon be working for MSNBC.
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09/15/09 - 12:21 PM
whomeye says...
beck has been uncovering some very interesting things about obama. when you dissect all the comments from speeches he’s made, it makes sense now. he really has a different idea and plan for us. people need to wake up to the things he’s been saying, including when he said that if you want to get to know him, get to know the people he surrounds himself with.

why are the liberals so blind? is it because they are just happy they won and don’t care who’s in office? or do they believe that we should have a corrupt president, or that they just believe what he believes? they really need to understand that this is not about party, this is about what he’s turning this country into.
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09/15/09 - 01:10 PM
mattkeltner says...
What I find disturbing about all of this is that when they revealed their intent to traffic 13 year old foreign girls as sex slaves, none of the ACORN workers batted an eye over it.

I guess as long as ACORN gets its clients and makes it money from the federal government, that’s all they care about. What’s at the root of all of this?

GREED! — it is so rotten and so widespread that it pervades almost every single corner of society now, even in organisations like ACORN, which was supposedly founded on benefiting communities.

Nobody — NOBODY — benefits when children are bought and sold as prostitutes.

You would think that the ACORN workers would have showed some shred of a conscience, but they didn’t. Again, it’s all about the money!

For those of you who still think there’s nothing wrong with greed, think again!
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09/15/09 - 01:15 PM
mattkeltner says...
And worse yet, how many of those feminist organisations who supported Obama (NARAL, NOW, Planned Parenthood) are going to come out and issue public condemnations of what is going on with ACORN?

I bet none of them.
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09/15/09 - 01:55 PM
whomeye says...
i can’t be the silence, where’s the outrage, i hear noting from the white house, from mainstream media, only fox is speaking up and informing us. acorn is corrupt and obama is part of it.
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09/15/09 - 02:16 PM
lancaster says...
yeah, some idiots at acron f#@$cked up.
but what about the acorn workers this scam didn’t work on?
including the ones that filed the police report in baltimore?
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09/15/09 - 02:19 PM
lancaster says...
and whomeye, our outrage is probably were your outrage was when this story broke.
“Sex For Oil Scandal At Interior Department” sept 10, 2008

But the Inspector General for the Interior Department says they rigged contracts, and engaged in illegal moonlighting, drugs, sex and gift-taking from oil company representatives, according to three reports released Wednesday. sept 8,2008
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09/15/09 - 02:20 PM
lancaster says...
but i’m supposed to be all over obama for what some uneducated women did in D.C.?
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09/15/09 - 02:22 PM
Randy Hall says...
No but you should be for Van Jones, Bill Ayres, and Revered Wright. But you knew Obama was working with dirt bags when you hired him.
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09/15/09 - 02:29 PM
Randy Hall says...
lancaster are you saying all fat black Acorn women in Washington D.C. are uneducated?
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09/15/09 - 02:31 PM
Have Faith says...
beck has been uncovering some very interesting things about obama. when you dissect all the comments from speeches he’s made, it makes sense now. he really has a different idea and plan for us. people need to wake up to the things he’s been saying, including when he said that if you want to get to know him, get to know the people he surrounds himself with."

ok I’ll bite. Like what?

Marino, Nixon was a corrupt president. Let’s have some facts and proof this acorn shit is obamas doing the way watergate was nixons doing. Then I won’t be " blind".
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09/15/09 - 02:32 PM
lancaster says...
i LIKE VAN JONES. i had no problem with him calling repubs assholes. kind of like u calling libs bipolar, or hwy calling us, well to many names to be listed here.

ayres and obama just moved in the same circle so i could care less.

as far as write is concerned, i don’t blame obama for anything he says.

anymore then i would blame u for all the childern the catholic church raped.
or the cover up of such rape by ur leader mahoney.
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09/15/09 - 02:34 PM
lancaster says...
RH, are u saying u’ll support ur church no matter what they do to kids?
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09/15/09 - 02:36 PM
mattkeltner says...
They are all corrupt. It’s seems like it’s par for the course when you get put into higher office.

Under Bush and Cheney, it was Halliburton and Blackwater. Under Obama and Biden, it’s ACORN and the unions.

It’s greed. That’s all.
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09/15/09 - 02:36 PM
lancaster says...
get some perspective!
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09/15/09 - 02:37 PM
whomeye says...
randy, the liberals are so ignorant. I have no problem with jones calling republicans “assholes”, i have a problem with who he is and the things he says about whites. HE’S A SELF ACLAIMED COMMUNIST!

this is the problem randy, its not one person obama is associated with, it’s the MANY he’s associated with and the organizations too.

LOOK AT THE PEOPLE HE SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH, THEY SHAPE HIS IDEAS. obama said it, not me…
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09/15/09 - 02:40 PM
lancaster says...
this IGNORANT lib says, van jones and acorn has done more good then harm.

now all u repubs can go through a tantrum over that.
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09/15/09 - 02:41 PM
whomeye says...
have faith: go to foxnews.com and click on “air shows” then on glenn beck and listen to all of last weeks “the one thing”. for once in your life, listen to him, he says it better than i.
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09/15/09 - 02:42 PM
lancaster says...
but be sure to catch one of ur GREAT GUYS, tom delay, on dancing with the stars.
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09/15/09 - 02:43 PM
Randy Hall says...
What lancaster forgets is my church has raped lots fewer kids than public school teachers. Plus Nixon is dead, so to bring him up is retarded. If I made the racist statements that lancaster made or Dowed did in her piece I’d be a racist, but libs are hurling names like there is no tomorrow. For them with the two million people march this weekend it is starting to look that way for them.
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09/15/09 - 02:45 PM
lancaster says...
yeah HF. go check lil cry baby beck out. he’s good for a laugh.

wasn’t it the repubs who had a melt down when clinton ALMOST cried?
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09/15/09 - 02:46 PM
lancaster says...
wheres ur proof randy? with mahoneys cover up it’s hard to tell.
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09/15/09 - 02:47 PM
mattkeltner says...
I agree, Lancaster. Jones and ACORN have shown that individuals and organisations on the Left can be just as shady, corrupt and maligned as those on the Right have been.

For a long time, many on the Left tried to pretend, sanctimoniously, as if they held the moral high ground on everything because they wanted to portray themselves as guardians of the poor and underprivileged.

Obviously, condoning cross-border sex trafficking blew a huge hole through that!
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09/15/09 - 02:47 PM
lancaster says...
and lets not forget the rapes by non cath youth ministers in all them private schools.
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09/15/09 - 02:48 PM
whomeye says...
lancaster, you are correct, you’re ignorant. you don’t care who’s in the white house, you only want control. that’s all…

see the different between you and me is i would fight my party, speak out demanding he/she step down if they were corrupt just as i did with people like sanford because i have values. you don’t.

our country is falling apart because of people like you, i hope you lose your job, lose your home and solely rely on the gobment. you deserve it.
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09/15/09 - 02:51 PM
lancaster says...
i disagree matt,
van is a man who has made GREAT strides in green jobs, and acron has made great strides in giving the disenfranchized a voice. are there bad apples? u bet. but once again, this was the acorn office that they got to bite. they went to 5 others before they found these guys. so does that mean the 5 that turned em down are bad or good?
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09/15/09 - 02:55 PM
Have Faith says...
Retarded Randy ? Call that kettle black asshole all you want.

Ain’t heard no facts yet. I’ll check bCk in a while you name callers.
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09/15/09 - 02:55 PM
whomeye says...
look at the founders of acorn, it’s these men who are the real problem. the little people are merely scapegoats and are disposable.
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09/15/09 - 02:59 PM
lancaster says...
and u have no idea what i have done in my party whomeye. u have no clue as to what calls i’ve made or emails i’ve sent, or checks i’ve written.

u don’t know if i’ve made complaints to my party or not. so?

but once again did u speak out against anything bush did, including the many sex scandels, voting fraud, illigal and UNNECESSARY IRAQ war, or the patriot act where we still don’t no how many of our rights we’ve lost?

so u were there bitchen huh? i doubt it.
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09/15/09 - 03:01 PM
lancaster says...
but u wouldn’t want my party to listen to me whomeye. I CONSIDER OBAMA A MODERATE.
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09/15/09 - 03:05 PM
whomeye says...
lancaster, oh yes i have, do you NEED glasses to re-read what i’ve posted? you and i are soooo different. i care about my country.

again, i hope you get laid off, lose your home and seek gobment assistance. you are one of a kind.
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09/15/09 - 03:05 PM
lancaster says...
WORK CALLS.
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09/15/09 - 03:06 PM
lancaster says...
AND GOD BLESS U TO.
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09/15/09 - 03:07 PM
whomeye says...
hopefully your boss will catch on and fire you for working on the clock.
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09/15/09 - 03:21 PM
whomeye says...
you know marino and randy, i’m truly baffled at the people who turn a blind eye on the corruption from this “current” administration. instead of denouncing it, they throw the previous administration at us to distract those who question it.

not everyone, including democrats are corrupt. there are select few like pelosi, obama, reid, barney, etc. who need to be ousted. at this point, i’d take bill clinton ANYDAY
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09/15/09 - 03:25 PM
Randy Hall says...
Yah, I miss Bill too. Don’t wish your fellow man hardship, your values won’t allow it. Emotions sometimes can cause you to say things you shoulden’t, be bigger than that.
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09/15/09 - 03:31 PM
whomeye says...
randy, you’re right. i’m just so tired of people like lancaster dismissing the corruption on part of obama solely because of party lines. he/she proves it when he/she throws the previous administration in. listen to beck, he’s not republican nor democrat, he goes after both. i believe lancaster wouldn’t have a problem with beck speaking against the republicans. kind of reminds me of ray and jeanne cunneff and their remark about frank george.

listen to the things beck is uncovering and ask questions.
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09/15/09 - 03:46 PM
Randy Hall says...
That assumes they want answers. Lancaster said Obama wasn’t radical enough for him. That makes you wonder what Obama would have to do to be like lancaster. Let’s see, maybe disband the military, and do away with national defense. Lock up police officers and let the prisioners go. Ahh, how about guns no more guns of any kind. No hunting, no animal shelters, the list is endless.
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09/15/09 - 03:54 PM
whomeye says...
why would any human being want that? i’m amazed that these people want to take away guns from law abiding citizens, yet those with criminal activity would still use them. do they actually believe that crime would decrease? criminals don’t care about the law! they’d still use guns to commit crimes…
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09/15/09 - 03:55 PM
socanative says...
Randy: Going back to your earlier post about your allegation that less priests have molested less children than public school teachers. That’s only because there are less priests than school teachers and thank goodness for that.
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09/15/09 - 04:01 PM
yourafreak says...
sandra, you really have it bad for priests don’t you? were you molested by one? get off it already.
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09/15/09 - 04:10 PM
Randy Hall says...
Socan I really don’t think you are arguing for more child rape but your point is pointless as is the attack against the church.
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09/15/09 - 04:10 PM
whomeye says...
marino, indeed it’s a forth video that glenn beck is showing on acorn today. dvr it or wait till tomorrow on go to the website.
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09/15/09 - 04:14 PM
socanative says...
Randy: Not an attack on the CC. Sorry you feel that’s what my intention is. I was merely pointing out the flaw with your “logic”.
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09/15/09 - 04:16 PM
Randy Hall says...
Whomeye, liberals don’t care about laws either that is why the Acorn is in hot water. Community activism and social justice ignore laws, that is why they are distrusted and why Obama has to wrap his objective in conservative lingo.
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09/15/09 - 04:32 PM
Have Faith says...
You guys are as much the problem with our ciuntry as those acorn bassholes. Your narrow minded name calling broad brush crap stinks worse than this bathroom. Were getting you out of power and put you in jail with them acorn folks where you belong. Igborant aholes the bunch of yiu. That sound right there, yeah that says what I think of you. Have a bad day.
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09/15/09 - 04:40 PM
socanative says...
Randy: You don’t know any liberal well enough to tell assume what they do and don’t care about. There’s your feelings getting in the way again.
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09/15/09 - 04:48 PM
Randy Hall says...
It’s a feeling of the day socal, the social issue of the moment is what concerns libs. My logic wasn’t flawed, but yours was and that is why I felt you were defending child rape but I knew different. Nobody defends child rape except the ACLU protected NAMBLA group. Socan it was a flaw in your logic to assume I thought you were attacking my church. Lucky for me the words are still posted if you want to re read them.
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09/15/09 - 04:49 PM
Randy Hall says...
Socan my mom is the most wonderful liberal I know. She believes GW caused 911, and she thinks Guy is right with his Marxism.
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09/15/09 - 04:59 PM
socanative says...
Randy: You know I try and read as little of your stuff as possible. It hurts when I have to think really hard to process your posts.

I can’t imagine you using the words “wonderful” and “liberal” in the same sentence. Those darn, pesky feelings must really be getting the better of you.
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09/15/09 - 05:48 PM
Randy Hall says...
Socan I’m unable to turn the love off I have for my mom. In that regard those feelings are healthy for me.
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09/15/09 - 06:04 PM
Randy Hall says...
On the other hand it would be wrong if I used my feelings to make public policy.
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09/15/09 - 08:27 PM
Just a mom says...
This is just amazing Acorn is getting so busted ! I love it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s8w9GEpSzw
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09/15/09 - 08:28 PM
Just a mom says...
San Berdo this time.
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09/15/09 - 08:39 PM
whomeye says...
just a mom, the film makers are on hannity right now, they said tomorrow they will air another one. wow…
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09/15/09 - 11:05 PM
roxi says...
It’s so COOL that you get a play-by-play Roster from Fox Snews!!! Then you know what to say, what to do and what to post for tomorrow!!! How cool is that?! Forget about reading anything…!!!!
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09/15/09 - 11:38 PM
138hwy says...
roxi..
Why no comment, you fascist piece of crap, about the severe beating of the white kid on the bus by black thugs?
Liberal scum such as yourself has suppressed the black race for 100 years now.
Blog your racist shit elsewhere..
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09/15/09 - 11:40 PM
PKShaw says...
What I can’t understand, and am really blown away by, is the fact that these female ACORN employees didn’t even bat an eye at the thought that these two applicants were talking about bringing in underage sex slaves! And I don’t mean to suggest that male employees should be any less sensitive to the issue, but come on – these were WOMEN who did not seem to care one iota!!

And why do we need ACORN in the first place? They are being funded to the tune of more than $50 MILLION to assist people in voter registration and house buying. Give me a break! We have an entire army of Realtors and lenders in every state helping people buy houses without a single dime of taxpayer money and as far as voter registration goes – if someone needs assistance with that then perhaps they shouldn’t be voting in the first place!

Those of you who are worried about poor people getting health care – how about we take the ACORN funding and pay for medical procedures??
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09/16/09 - 12:05 AM
marino says...
Good point, PK. Why should the taxpayer fund Acorn? Let them invest in their own business, if they are successful enough.
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09/16/09 - 12:24 AM
marino says...
ACORN 4. San Bernardino employee admits to killing her husband.


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09/16/09 - 01:05 AM
whomeye says...
i hear tomorrows video should be worse. i just don’t understand why the liberals are okay with this. they should be sickened, demanding an investigation. do liberals like under age prostitution? how many others gave illegal tax info to those to obtain homes? and i’m not speaking about prostitution, what other types of illegal stories are the acorn workers advising on?

what about this woman who said she murdered her husband? shouldn’t men be upset? OMG, why aren’t they standing up and demanding answers? maybe because they know obama is deeply tied to them…
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09/16/09 - 01:06 AM
whomeye says...
come on, there must be a liberal here with some sense of morals. anyone?
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09/16/09 - 01:07 AM
whomeye says...
just one? one who wants an investigation maybe to clear acorn?
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09/16/09 - 01:25 AM
PKShaw says...
There is absolutely no reason for us to continue funding this organization. Not that there was any in the first place but if this doesn’t show you why government doesn’t belong in health care, or anything else, then you just don’t want to look.
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09/16/09 - 04:14 AM
mattkeltner says...
The “R” in ACORN is an abbreviation for “Reform” (don’t you love how these words are bandied about?).

It seems to me, though, that it is ACORN itself that is in need of “reform”.

At this point, however, ACORN seems tarnished beyond any possible way of reform.

Time to burn it down, let the roaches scurry out and then watch where they go.
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09/16/09 - 04:39 AM
mattkeltner says...
whomeye says…”come on, there must be a liberal here with some sense of morals. anyone? “

Actually, before you begin with the name-calling, make note of this:

With regard to the ACORN Scandal and alleged fraud in Las Vegas, The Nevada Secretary of State, Ross Miller (a Democrat from Las Vegas), and State Attorney General, Catherine Cortez Masto (another Democrat from Las Vegas), do actually possess the content of character and integrity necessary to perform their sworn duty for the benefit of all Nevadans, regardless of political stripe. Both of these individuals are pursuing these charges aggressively.

Right after the November 2008 elections, the State of Nevada moved quickly. Padlocks were placed around door handles at ACORNs rented office space, yellow tape thrown up and tons and tons of files were confiscated and hauled off to Carson City for investigation.
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09/16/09 - 10:12 AM
whomeye says...
mattkeltner, i wasn’t speaking about liberal leaders, i meant in here. my bad, i should have been more clear.

as glenn beck pointed out, this is not about republican or democrat. he spoke with a couple of democrats last saturday and was told that they are scared, scared because their are people in washington who would ruin their future if they spoke against them. i’m sure they’re speaking of pelosi, boxer, frank, dodd, and a few more. these are the people who need to go.
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09/16/09 - 10:31 AM
Randy Hall says...
“Time to burn it down, let the roaches scurry out and then watch where they go.” Sorry the time has passed they got Obama elected. The damage has been done and will get much worse because that is his MO. Create a crisis and then propose the solution which is increasing his power.
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09/16/09 - 10:55 AM
marino says...
Obama must be proud. It it were Bush that was associated with Acorn and SEIU the way Obama was, Bush would have surely been asked to resign or be impeached. No doubt about it.
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09/16/09 - 11:02 AM
whomeye says...
absolutely marino! complete double standard. messiah obama can no wrong and when things start looking bad for him, their tactic will be to blame bush.
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09/16/09 - 11:07 AM
marino says...
Acorn “and” Obama sued banks to force bad loans.

’07 Community Org. Forum including Acorn and Obama.


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09/16/09 - 11:25 AM
whomeye says...
but marino, the sub prime crisis isn’t the fault of “acorn and friends”, wall street is responsible…

acorn and seiu are playing a big role in the presidency along side of obama. then look at the czars, look at a lot of the people he’s bringing in. how many people has he brought in without confirmation who have “dark beliefs”? coincidence or is obama’s administration that dense that they fail to google these people to see who they are.

there’s a reason he brought them in, they do his work without any needed approval from senate and house.
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09/16/09 - 11:29 AM
marino says...
Acorn and SEIU founders Wade Rathke and his brother skimmed about $1,000,000 from Acorn and covered it up. They should be prosecuted.

Acorn, Apollo Project, HCAN are all socialist fronts, infecting every aspect of our lives and pocketbooks.


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09/16/09 - 11:57 AM
whomeye says...
really? most bankruptcies occur because of health care costs? hmmm…

several people i know filed bankruptcy because they accumulated far too much debt from credit cards due to over spending. let’s just say to rarely speak to them now.
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09/16/09 - 12:08 PM
roxi says...
Ralph Nader quotes seems more on point now than when he made them in 2000:

“There is one Corporate Party, with two heads wearing different make-up”

“the greatest power the major parties have over voters is their belief that they
have to vote for a democrat or republican”

it should be obvious to anyone, “change we can believe in” will not take place by
voting for a democrat or republican. As long as corporations are allowed to dump money into Presidential political campaigns to ensure that their policies follow their mandates; as long as the wealthy believe that there is no poverty in this country and as long as all are willing to accept these as status quo – no one will agree, and we will continue to be used as chattel for the New World Order.

Time for a third party. Some like Ron Paul, I prefer Kuchinich.
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09/16/09 - 12:31 PM
Randy Hall says...
There is a philosophical difference between the two parties. Most reps believe in life and fiscal conservatives. Dems believe in abortion rights for women only, and redistribution of wealth.

Third parties ensure the current office holders are insulated from scorn due to wasted energy in the attempt at forming 3rd parties.

Governance on the other hand is due to character and it is why repbs are held to a standard where dems when showing lack of character are in there true form.
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09/16/09 - 12:59 PM
roxi says...
09/16/09 – 12:31 PM
Randy Hall says…
There is a philosophical difference between the two parties. Most reps believe in life and fiscal conservatives. Dems believe in abortion rights for women only, and redistribution of wealth.
Third parties ensure the current office holders are insulated from scorn due to wasted energy in the attempt at forming 3rd parties.
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Granted, we agree to disagree on these points – but wouldn’t a 3rd party, if strong and elected create the scorn by throwing the ‘status-quo’ out of power? Or are we so far gone that we refuse to agree on any talking points and loose the whole schbang?

Answering my own question, true, the money would just flow from one wacko party to the next.

Randy Hall says…
Governance on the other hand is due to character and it is why repbs are held to a standard where dems when showing lack of character are in there true form.

I don’t know how any Rep can say this with a straight face considering they have been contributors to this mess as much as the one’s dealing with it now. To insight ‘character and standards’ in the same sentence for any viable political party standing today is pushing it. We don’t need to start slinging the arrows as to who’s the WORST here – there’s plenty to go around on both sides of the aisle.
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09/16/09 - 01:07 PM
PKShaw says...
Absolutely right, sometimes it’s hard to tell which party a particular legislator represents.

Republicans don’t get into trouble for being Republican, it’s when they aren’t Republican enough.
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09/16/09 - 01:09 PM
Randy Hall says...
Stanford didn’t resign because he was acting like a dem. Duval resigned because he was acting like a repub.

3rd party is pie in the sky. Never will happen so why waste the time?

Our pols overreact to our complaints. We get the government we ask for. If you read the book of Kings in The Bible you will understand people don’t want freedom they want to be told what to do.
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09/16/09 - 01:15 PM
whomeye says...
add roland burris and maxine waters to the list of corrupt leaders.
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09/16/09 - 01:17 PM
whomeye says...
it seems ca and illinois lead the way with corrupt leaders.
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09/16/09 - 01:19 PM
Randy Hall says...
There is no status quo; we have just the opposite problem. Our pols are working for us so hard and giving us what we want. Our problem is we don’t see them fixing problems we see them creating them in giving us what we ask for. That is why I ask for less government not more.
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09/16/09 - 01:26 PM
roxi says...
09/16/09 – 01:09 PM
Randy Hall says…
Stanford didn’t resign because he was acting like a dem.

Lol, is that it? And he holds hisself safe & harmless because he left the State for 5 days and nobody knew where he was? Can’t think of a Gov. on the D side that’s done this one…this is a first!

RH:
3rd party is pie in the sky. Never will happen so why waste the time?

True, because obviously the two parties could never agree-especially to giving up all that power. Maybe we should re-invent both parties to what they’re suppose to be? Nah, that would never work either because where would all that $$ come from?

RH:
Our pols overreact to our complaints. We get the government we ask for. If you read the book of Kings in The Bible you will understand people don’t want freedom they want to be told what to do.

The Polls are fixed, and I don’t think we asked for this, did we? So the Bible says that we don’t want freedom, we want to be told what to do. EXACTLY WHEN was this written-what year?, and how does this apply to what’s going on now? The Bible isn’t the constitution….it’s a historical document never meant to be taken literally in the ‘political sense’. But it’s being used as a shield, much like Bush used it in all his campaigns, including reasons to go to ‘war’. He created this faux security blanket for millions who needed it – only to have it come crashing down in the name of Wall Street.

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09/16/09 - 01:38 PM
Randy Hall says...
Roxi, human beings haven’t change in eons. We can’t stand our freedom, that is why we clamor for more government.

PK has it right Republicans get in trouble when they don’t act like Republicans. But you guys have Rangle writing tax laws that he actively tries to subvert personally. Our Treasury Secretary little Timmy the elf a tax cheat. Neither of these guys would be allowed by your party if we chose them.

Our pols (politicians) give us what we ask for. We want clean air and who doesn’t we get smog check and catalytic converters. We want clean water we shut down the aqueduct for a smelt. We get what we want like retirement benefits where you work for 20 years and get full retirement. Then the union makes sure you get it by buying the best pols to get the job done. Obama buys GM and those big banks so the money keeps flowing. If a repub did that I’d of told them to let it fail as failed business should.
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09/16/09 - 02:00 PM
Have Faith says...
I watched your Beck Fox “news” like you said. Let’s explain that the way things happen in the US, still, is for law agencies to investigate, then govt attys file charges, then the accused have day on court. Thats what we do, whether it’s Nixon, Clinton, or Obama. The appearance that you’re dissatisfied with letting that process happen, and prefer to convict on the basis of Becks opinions, is exactly what makes people like me think you’re jackasses.

I’m a liberal as said before and Ive been told investigations are underwY.
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09/16/09 - 02:18 PM
Randy Hall says...
I understand HF if you were a farmer you would when the fox was in your hen house go to town and ask the sheriff to investigate. He would then tell you that you had a fox in your hen house and you need to get rid of it. The sheriff would then offer you forms to fill out because it is an endangered fox. By the time you got back from your background checks and stood in long lines filling out form after form you would return to take care of your fox who now lives in your home and is asking for more chickens.
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09/16/09 - 02:18 PM
whomeye says...
naw, i didn’t know that was the process? geez thanks for the info… lol

the video and voter fraud says it all. if this video wasn’t damning, then acorn wouldn’t have FIRED four workers. jack assess. hahaha

yes, indeed you’re a typical liberal…
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09/16/09 - 02:24 PM
whomeye says...
randy, lol!
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09/16/09 - 02:30 PM
whomeye says...
just in from acorn (see below): maybe they should have waited for “law agencies” to investigate before stepping in because after all there’s nothing illegal going on…


“As a result of the indefensible action of a handful of our employees, I am, in consultation with ACORN’s Executive Committee, immediately ordering a halt to any new intakes into ACORN’s service programs until completion of an independent review,” ACORN CEO Bertha Lewis said in a statement released Wednesday. “I have also communicated with ACORN’s independent Advisory Council, and they will assist ACORN in naming an independent auditor and investigator to conduct a thorough review of all of the organizations relevant systems and processes.”
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09/16/09 - 02:49 PM
Have Faith says...
Well there you are. “Liberals” responded, more will likely happen as investigations proceed and charges are filed. What are you complaining about?

RandyHallofMirrors, foxes are nit US citizens. You’re more fun than a barrel of monkees. I can just see you rolling on the floor laughing out loud with your monkeys. Even if you prefer the company of animals sniff sniff it doesn’t give them legal rights.
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09/16/09 - 03:11 PM
whomeye says...
see mattkeltner, i asked if there’d be just 1 liberal who would stand up for america and justice. not 1 here…
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09/16/09 - 04:11 PM
PKShaw says...
Every time any type of budget balancing requirement is put on the ballot voters approve it so I’m not sure how Randy figures the pols listen to us.
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09/16/09 - 04:32 PM
marino says...
So “Acorn” CEO Bertha Lewis, along with “Acorn’s” Execs, and “Acorn’s” independent Advisory Coucil will name an independent auditor and investigator to conduct a thorough review.

Well isn’t that special.
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09/16/09 - 04:35 PM
marino says...
Kinda like O.J. picking his own jury.
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09/16/09 - 04:40 PM
Randy Hall says...
PK, we ask for services and pensions, healthcare and general relief. We then get mad if it doesn’t happen and take it out on the pol that doesn’t deliver. Overdrawn budgets are the result of that largess.

Balance the budget means someone doesn’t get their goodie and that makes a finicky voter.
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09/16/09 - 04:50 PM
PKShaw says...
So should Republicans say no to the goodies and lose their seat or say yes and become as bad as the other guys?

This is the dilemma faced every day.
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09/16/09 - 04:55 PM
Have Faith says...
Whomeye
don’t lie on this blog jackass. I asked boxer Feinstein mcjeon and McCarthy to call for investigations. Stop posting that libs don’t do this and libs don’t do that. You’re proving yourself to be a narrowminded prejudiced jackass.
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09/16/09 - 04:58 PM
Have Faith says...
Marino
yeah kind of like all the state boards and commissions republicans appoint their cronies to, to oversee them.
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09/16/09 - 05:04 PM
Randy Hall says...
It is PK why GW was hated so by both sides. The left hated him because he didn’t do enough goodies and the right hated him because he did too many goodies. A dilemma for sure, a good reason to know who you are electing and a good reason for local political clubs like AVRA because they allow you to know who it is your are voting for.
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09/16/09 - 05:23 PM
138hwy says...
Carter says Americans are racist and that the reason people are turning away from Obama is due to “people do not want a black president.”
This comes from a former president who disgraced the presidency and is without a doubt the worst president in our history. Carter had a “misery index” and like Obama he placed the blame for his failures on the American public.
There is racism for sure. But it is from the fascist liberals, the congressional black caucus, MTV, BET, and the Obama administration.
BTW.. Did this ass-clown Carter ever comment on the brutal attack by blacks upon a white student trying to get a seat on a school bus? Or maybe ONLY white skinned people are racists. lol What a joke this prick is!!
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09/16/09 - 07:02 PM
whomeye says...
marino didn’t you say no personal attacks here? have faith is calling me a jackass because “it” has no arguement so the attacks begin…
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09/16/09 - 09:01 PM
mattkeltner says...
Unfortunately, I feel vindicated (but not in a good way). I had this gut-feeling that if Obama were to get elected and hold office, any criticism of him or his policies would be politically construed as “racism” by the majority of the black community.

Non-Hispanic Whites make up 70% of the U.S. population. Hispanics (who may identify as any race, but more often choose “white” [esp. Cubans and Mexicans] — due to their Spanish ancestry I suppose) make up about 15% of the population.

Blacks make up 13% of the population.

Barack Obama is black. He has chosen to identify himself to the nation and the world as a “black” man. In other words, he has chosen to identify with a 13% minority. That, in itself, coupled with his past association with the identity politics of the Fringe Left, is enough to marginalise him and put him on the defensive.

So, naturally, his core supporters (most blacks and ultra-liberal whites) are going to lash out and ridiculously accuse people of “racism” for merely critiquing his policies.

It’s sad but I could have told you it was coming.

I really think Hillary Clinton or Bill Richardson would have been the better choice.
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09/16/09 - 09:16 PM
Just a mom says...
I love this guy. Equal distribution of misery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8RRDzYtURo
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09/16/09 - 10:15 PM
roxi says...
09/16/09 – 09:01 PM
mattkeltner says…
Barack Obama is black. He has chosen to identify himself to the nation and the world as a “black” man. In other words, he has chosen to identify with a 13% minority. That, in itself, coupled with his past association with the identity politics of the Fringe Left, is enough to marginalise him and put him on the defensive.

Barack Obama is not black. He is bi-racial-black/white. He may ‘look’ black to many but he has not chosen to identify himself as a black man, matter of fact he avoided the race issue thru his entire campaign. Carter lived through the anti-segregation of the 60’s in the south and sees similarities in the now ‘race-baiting’ of extreme fringes of ‘whomever’ === be they Gop/Skinheads or KKK – or what? There are those out there who want us to fail, no matter what. So, what are you going to do about it?

MK:
So, naturally, his core supporters (most blacks and ultra-liberal whites) are going to lash out and ridiculously accuse people of “racism” for merely critiquing his policies.

Nope, it’s deeper than that and more sinister.

RH:
Obama buys GM and those big banks so the money keeps flowing. If a repub did that I’d of told them to let it fail as failed business should.

So, what’s the story with Chrysler when THEY were bailed out??? Who was he strokin’? Who thought they were more viable then – and not now to GM? Seems right now, the only thing that’s keeping food on the table and a steady (GFB) Wall Street print out is shelving more money to the one’s who destroyed our economy in the first place!

The seeds were planted by Bush, and Obama’s watering the garden…sad to say. I want to know WHY.

MK:
I really think Hillary Clinton or Bill Richardson would have been the better choice.

Clinton may have had more stroke, but had too much baggage. Richardson would’ve been terrific, maybe he wouldn’t have been so plyable……which is why he didn’t get the nomination. It was who would bend to the ‘rules’…..get it?!!
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09/16/09 - 10:49 PM
mattkeltner says...
Roxi,

When I stated the following:

“Barack Obama is black. He has chosen to identify himself to the nation and the world as a ‘black’ man.”

I am going strictly by the tone and expressions put forth in his book, Dreams of My Father, in which he makes a very conscious decision to self-identify as “black”, despite his mother’s lineage.

I’m sure you’ve read the book, but if you haven’t, please do and it should become pretty clear.
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09/16/09 - 11:24 PM
marino says...
Matt,

What do you think the reaction would have been had Obama chosen to identify himself to the nation and the world as a white man?

How would his support have changed?
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09/17/09 - 12:03 AM
marino says...
Acorn 5. San Diego office.


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09/17/09 - 12:40 AM
Have Faith says...
whomeye
I guess Marino agreed you were being a jakass.
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09/17/09 - 01:01 AM
whomeye says...
hf, i have faith that you will end up with a jack up your ass…
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09/17/09 - 10:03 AM
RealSteve says...
You boys are just so so mean to each other, good job.
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09/17/09 - 10:21 AM
Just a mom says...
San Diego busted ! National City this time.
Americans Against Acorn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CMXMC7vba4
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09/17/09 - 05:51 PM
marino says...
Congressman/Pimp Rolland Burris wants taxpayers to continue funding ACORN. Does that mean he agrees to child protitution?


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09/17/09 - 09:44 PM
whomeye says...
yep, another corrupt congressman
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