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Sunday, June 10 2012 - 05:11 AM
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AV Town Crier says...
What he says is true. Immigration has to be limited and the State Dept. has to be involved to help these people acclimate(that’s not the word I wanted to use, but I couldn’t spell it and this is as close a spell-checker would give me. I’m a lousy speller.) to American society, like they did in the past.
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roxi says...
CW: "And that was 41 years ago. "
Egads! You mean that nothing has changed in LA, except more people moving in – even with all the Republican Mayors, etc? Perhaps there were opportunities to reverse these trends, but not taken – obviously.
Take note that Marco Rubio, R-Fla is in cahoots with major Hispanic advocates out here for an acceleration of the “Dream Act”; primarily to up the vote from Hispanics across the country. They’re banking on their support for ‘small businesses’ (not the LLC kind that Robmey prefers) – which comprises of most of the Latino income, to date.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Roxi there are times I really really wonder if you escaped from a mental hospital. Marco Rubio is just another pro amnesty hispanic trying to get their votes like Romney and Obama. No, at the expense of the working poor we had to contend with unfair competition for the same unskilled jobs. And after 1980 most skilled jobs like construction were filled by illegals thereby eliminating thousands of jobs for americans. And today with over 25 million americans unemployed and millions more who just gave up looking for work. If either candidate wanted to put those unemployed americans back to work, then they should speak up and actually encourage anti illegal immigration. And neither Obama or Romney is about to alienate the hispanic vote.
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avbornbred says...
Roxi: since when do Republican Mayors dictate immigration policies?
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roxi says...
I don’t argue that illegals took over the construction biz, CW – that’s a fact. Now they’ve taken over the landscaping biz, but then they stole that from the Orientals, didn’t they?
Like NYC, the lowest on the totem-pole of ethnic arrivals always take over the lowest jobs, which is either cab driver or street vendor. Those who had those jobs work their way up to the next level, which is usually a candy/tobacco store. Next level is a Green Grocer, Meat store, etc etc.
I am sure you are willing to admit that the Rat-Contractors who hired the illegals to build our houses, etc are the one’s at FAULT for ruining not only Union jobs, but jobs for certified-Americans with limited education.
But, these “Mayors” and politicos looked the other way, didn’t they – as they were some of the investors in these tracts (properties, etc) who benefitted LARGELY from these ‘illegal’ practices.
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AV Town Crier says...
Roxi
You’re right. The immigration issue is larger and more complex than it seems. Slapping a fence up won’t stop the problem. And it’s not just an American problem, European nations have the same issues as well.
You have a choice, either the rich nations support the poor nations, or the poor people will come to where the jobs are. That or there will be more revolutions that at some point will drag the rest of the world in and you will have WWIII. Which might solve the problem. A lot of lives are lost in a major war. That’s less mouths to feed. That seems to be the mentality and the direction we’re going in. Or, we let the Club of Rome and the NWO solve the problem. With their solution you wouldn’t have to worry about illegal immigration, there would be no immigration in a one-world govt. (that is unless those pesky Martians start immigrating here.)
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roxi says...
Ha – the Martians…..I thought they were already here….. the one’s who started the Tea Party — silly me.
True, asswipes like Clinton wish to eliminate ALL borders, and Martians like Cheney want to privatize the entire country. CAFTA is helping their efforts.
George W. wanted the super-highway toll-road built right thru TX farmland up to Canada – for “Free Trade”. (Reads:: NO BORDERS)
We’re seeing it now with the Canadian Fracking firm who wants illegal ‘eminent-domain’ in the USA for their oil sludge to transport across Nebraska’s only water source.
Water? Drink Pepsi.
Since TX’s as just about drained their underground natural water source in West TX, who cares if there’s oil pipelines everywhere?!
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Cagy Wolf says...
Roxi,George Bush the jr. signed the North American Union treaty and Clinton (both of them) have also made it possbile for illegal and legal immigration to prosper while american citizens wanting the same jobs get poorer. If there were a border for poor americans to cross into for work they would. Mexico is rich but their leaders are more crooked than our own traitors, so they line their pockets and allow their citizens to come to the USA. So they don’t have to feed, clothe or educate not to mention the medical care.
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Big Idiot says...
i thought nafta did just what they needed. they moved the boarder 250 miles towards la.
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AV Town Crier says...
Roxi
Every President since JFk has been an asswipe. They’re all are members of the Skull and Bones or (as in Bubba Bill, a Rhodes scholar) They ALL sold their heart and souls to the power elite.
As far as I’m concerned we might just as well bow down to the Mystic Knight’s of the Club of Rome.
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marino says...
I will keep deleting your dimwitted accusations, Cyberpunk.
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Sovereignty Soldier says...
roxi says…
Yes, censorship does suck, just ask “Highground”:
06/10/12 – 05:40 PM
roxi says…
CW: "And that was 41 years ago. "
Egads! You mean that nothing has changed in LA, except more people moving in – even with all the Republican Mayors, etc? Perhaps there were opportunities to reverse these trends, but not taken – obviously.
Take note that Marco Rubio, R-Fla is in cahoots with major Hispanic advocates out here for an acceleration of the “Dream Act”; primarily to up the vote from Hispanics across the country. They’re banking on their support for ‘small businesses’ (not the LLC kind that Robmey prefers) – which comprises of most of the Latino income, to date.
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06/10/12 – 05:56 PM
Cagy Wolf says…
Roxi there are times I really really wonder if you escaped from a mental hospital. Marco Rubio is just another pro amnesty hispanic trying to get their votes like Romney and Obama. No, at the expense of the working poor we had to contend with unfair competition for the same unskilled jobs. And after 1980 most skilled jobs like construction were filled by illegals thereby eliminating thousands of jobs for americans. And today with over 25 million americans unemployed and millions more who just gave up looking for work. If either candidate wanted to put those unemployed americans back to work, then they should speak up and actually encourage anti illegal immigration. And neither Obama or Romney is about to alienate the hispanic vote.
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06/10/12 – 06:44 PM
avbornbred says…
Roxi: since when do Republican Mayors dictate immigration policies?
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06/10/12 – 06:53 PM
roxi says…
I don’t argue that illegals took over the construction biz, CW – that’s a fact. Now they’ve taken over the landscaping biz, but then they stole that from the Orientals, didn’t they?
Like NYC, the lowest on the totem-pole of ethnic arrivals always take over the lowest jobs, which is either cab driver or street vendor. Those who had those jobs work their way up to the next level, which is usually a candy/tobacco store. Next level is a Green Grocer, Meat store, etc etc.
I am sure you are willing to admit that the Rat-Contractors who hired the illegals to build our houses, etc are the one’s at FAULT for ruining not only Union jobs, but jobs for certified-Americans with limited education.
But, these “Mayors” and politicos looked the other way, didn’t they – as they were some of the investors in these tracts (properties, etc) who benefitted LARGELY from these ‘illegal’ practices.
(answer your question, AVbb?)
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06/10/12 – 07:04 PM
AV Town Crier says…
Roxi
You’re right. The immigration issue is larger and more complex than it seems. Slapping a fence up won’t stop the problem. And it’s not just an American problem, European nations have the same issues as well.
You have a choice, either the rich nations support the poor nations, or the poor people will come to where the jobs are. That or there will be more revolutions that at some point will drag the rest of the world in and you will have WWIII. Which might solve the problem. A lot of lives are lost in a major war. That’s less mouths to feed. That seems to be the mentality and the direction we’re going in. Or, we let the Club of Rome and the NWO solve the problem. With their solution you wouldn’t have to worry about illegal immigration, there would be no immigration in a one-world govt. (that is unless those pesky Martians start immigrating here.)
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06/10/12 – 07:14 PM
roxi says…
Ha – the Martians…..I thought they were already here….. the one’s who started the Tea Party — silly me.
True, asswipes like Clinton wish to eliminate ALL borders, and Martians like Cheney want to privatize the entire country. CAFTA is helping their efforts.
George W. wanted the super-highway toll-road built right thru TX farmland up to Canada – for “Free Trade”. (Reads:: NO BORDERS)
We’re seeing it now with the Canadian Fracking firm who wants illegal ‘eminent-domain’ in the USA for their oil sludge to transport across Nebraska’s only water source.
Water? Drink Pepsi.
Since TX’s as just about drained their underground natural water source in West TX, who cares if there’s oil pipelines everywhere?!
Gotta love the scam -
06/10/12 – 05:43 PM
roxi says…
06/10/12 – 03:00 PM
highground says…
Some seem to share my opinion that we have had two amateurs in a row.
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I would say that a President who took out Osama bin Laden is not a viable example of an “amateur” – but I digress …..or is it, we all regress?
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06/10/12 – 05:48 PM
avbornbred says…
Obama is an amature!!! Any politician presented with an opportunity to blast Bin Ladin would have taken it. When dealing with the economy, what has Obama done? There are the imaginary 4.3 million jobs he says he created. He lumped existing jobs into his Green Energy work force, and he has tried to ruin health care.
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06/10/12 – 05:57 PM
Cagy Wolf says…
Obama has only made things worse and increased taxes and the debt.
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06/10/12 – 06:04 PM
avbornbred says…
Yea, Obama created the Tea Party. He justified the use of Advanced Interrogation Techniques.
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06/10/12 – 06:31 PM
AV Town Crier says…
Look at all that TARP money he threw away while fucking Social Security recipients.
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06/10/12 – 06:43 PM
marino says…
The policies and interrogation tactics used to get Bin Ladin were put into place by the Bush admin.
And Obama fought against them, roxi.
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06/10/12 – 06:44 PM
roxi says…
HA – The JOB CREATORS are now piping in, expressing their dismay over President Obama’s JOB record – what a laff. Just how long do they have to keep raking in our tax-dollars via the BUSH tax cuts to feel “secure”, all warm and fuzzy, to INVEST in this country?!
Romney’s Job Creating Myth
We need to understand and communitcate the difference between Job Creating and Job Shifting
If someone opens up a Domino’s Pizza, employs 20 people, then puts Shakey’s Pizza out of business and they lay off 20 people, there is no job creation.
If someone opens up a Domino’s Pizza, employs 15 people, then puts Shakey’s Pizza out of business and they lay off 20 people, 5 jobs have been destroyed.
That Domino’s employs 15 or 20 people is good for Domino’s, is good for its owners, but that cannot be considered job creation. It is either job shifting or job destruction.
If on the other hand opening a Domino’s increases the amount of pizza sold and Shakey’s stays open it is good for the fast food pizza industry but probably not so hot for the fast food fried chicken industry. It is still job shifting or job destruction.
That is the nature of Vulture Capitalistic ‘Free Market’ competitive markets.
Job growth is the result of overall economic growth. Only that results in true job creation.
Bain Capital did not create a single job. By its very nature it looks for opportunities to provide the same amount of product or service at less cost and with less labor. They are job destroyers.
Again, thats fine as a market competitor. But lets stop this job creator nonsense.
—-Jim
La-dee-dah……
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06/10/12 – 06:49 PM
avbornbred says…
Roxi: Obama is rich, very rich. He did not earn his money, he created wealth from getting involved in politics. Obama wants Socialism for everyone else except himself, part of the DNA of Communist ans Socialist leaders.
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06/10/12 – 06:52 PM
avbornbred says…
Roxi: don’t forget the people who were removed from the unemoyment rolls because their benefits ran out. They don’t count as being part of the unemployment numbers. Don’t trust the government for the truth. Obama’s numbers don’t add up.
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06/10/12 – 06:57 PM
roxi says…
How can I NOT forget those who’s UNEMPLOYMENT extensions have been denied by your Tea Party Freaks in DC? We live with it everyday, don’t we – with an increase of crime, etc.
Right, the unemployment is actually about 25-30% in this country, and rising. But the party of NO has no other option to change anything – after all, elections are more important than people living in the streets.
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06/10/12 – 06:57 PM
avbornbred says…
Roxi: Your guy Clinton referred to Romney as having a “stellar” record at Bain Capital. You must look at all the numbers and not just the negative ones. Romney had a history if turning companies around through restructuring which proved to be a sucess. If leading Dems support Romney’s record at Bain, what does that tell you!!!
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06/10/12 – 06:57 PM
AV Town Crier says…
AVB
Obama is far from rich. Yes he’s better off than most of us, but he’s far from a mulch-millionaire. Most of his money comes from being President.
That being send, the money he made before becoming prez (regardless of how much) was from ACORN and the like. I agree with the rest of what was said about him. he is a weasel. But, is Mitt any better? He so full of shit, I’d vote to go back to a monarchy under British rule and accept the fact that we blew it.
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06/10/12 – 07:03 PM
roxi says…
How in the hell did Obama make money from ACORN? I’d like to hear this one…..
Obama made his money from his BOOK, something some people read, and others would like to burn.
Clinton is a weasel, like all of ‘em. He back-tracked after saying that Robmey was a genius, and that the BUSH tax cuts should remain (at least for awhile until his investments leveled out in Germany, most likely). But, his back-tracking rings hollow, as we know he’s in like Flynn with all of ’em.
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06/10/12 – 07:08 PM
AV Town Crier says…
Roxi
I was referring to his pre-presidential days. He was some kind of community organizer. I said ACORN or something similar. One thing for sure, Obama wasn’t a true supporter of America, and his actions in the White House don’t make me believe things have changed. But, that doesn’t mean I’m gonna support the golden boy with the magic underwear, either.
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06/10/12 – 07:23 PM
roxi says…
It’s amazing to me that the CONS have made being a Community Organizer a dirty word – kind of like a "store-front-abortionists” or something – lol.
Obama had a grass-roots campaign back in ‘08 where everyone sent about $25 – hardly comparable to our Citizens United ’efforts’ from unknown ILLEGAL-Alien benefactors from foreign countries – TAX FREE, btw!!!
The first 2 years of Obama’s term was spent trying to untangle the mess George W. and his cronies invented. That’s a little bit more than having to replace the "W"’s on all the computers in the Casa Blanca that Clintonites ‘left’.
I’d say McConnell and Boner’s VOW to leave this country in shambles by making sure Obama was a 1-term Prez has been quite successful….so far.
There’s still time for them to repent.
hahahahah!
06/10/12 – 07:41 PM
avbornbred says…
Roxi: what is a Community Organizer? Nobody knows.
Obama will not admit he is a Socialist even though he is. Romney admits he is a Capitalist.
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06/10/12 – 07:51 PM
roxi says…
Geesh – no search engines on your smart phone, AVbb?
Robmey was a Community Organizer when he went to France to avoid the draft and recruited people for the Mormon Church.
Ask.com says that Community organizing is a process where people who live in proximity to each other come together into an organization that acts in their shared self-interests – like providing food for the poor, or joining the Elks club, or starting a Republican club, etc…..
Yahoo! the recently-anointed Republican search engine says:
What is a community organizer?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080905213…
Nobody really knows, some think its just a front to scam people to get their money. Since most of the communities Obama supposably was helping basically have been condemed buildings and boarded up leaving the people without a community you….
Any group of people organized can be a community organized organization, since most people live in a community.
When Robmey releases his 2011 Tax Returns, we’ll know what BRAND of Capitalist he is.
06/10/12 – 01:44 AM
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06/09/12 – 06:38 PM
highground says…
The issue is WHAT is the Obama administration doing. Obama stated “we do not expect harmful levels of radiation to reach the United States, whether it’s the West Coast, Hawaii, Alaska, or US territories in the Pacific.” Does the amateur really belive the lies of corporate shills and energy lobbyist.
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You don’t have to look too far back to find the AMATEURS: Christine Todd Whitman, former Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency who told New Yorkers that the air was fine, and don’t worry about the residual ‘dust’ on their windowsills, streets, — everywhere! Guess there’s a few firefighters, residents, etc who aren’t feeling too well these days.
“Brownie, You’re doing a heck of a job” – goes without sayin’…..
I think you posted this on the wrong blog Roxi.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Roxi just mindlessly sprouts off with her dribbles and bits of nonsense,like good ole marshmellowman.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Marino I have been saying for years that california not just Los Angeles has turned into mexico.You saw what happened when Ted Hayes Black America First marched down Broadway Blvd. basically my old neighborhood, it certainly was in the AAA autoclub area we serviced and I spoke spanish more then I did english. Except China Town there I was lost in communicating with the chinese immigrants. But being a mechanic and having the despatcher give me the trouble code, so I didn’t have to talk to them. But I drove around Los Angeles and I drove all over california and california is more mexico (hispanic) then american culture and people. Tony Villagosia was a radical chicano activist part of MECHA and several other socialist and radical revoluntionary groups. I saw when Cesar Chavez and the grape pickers went on strike and blocked Safeway Parking lot, they cut shoppers tired, broke winshields and generally raised all kinds of hell. I got the first call there and I had to call for back up and then the LAPD and TV news showed up. And that was 41 years ago. Vitually every neighbor I have lived in is now totally hispanic with a few exceptions like Lincoln Heights which close to China Town has asian immigrants, very nice people but cheap.
You see Marino the way they have conquered america is not by guns (although that also happens)but by population growth and expansion. Going across the USA I have seen it go piece by piece into mexico. And our wonderful serve selfing political leaders of both parties have done nothing to solve. Instead like true passive and even in a french manner have surrendered to the enemy. Sure they are some nice mexicans my aunt is one of them and my cousins but the rest are just no good. I heard all the crying and whining by our liberal lunatic fellow bloggers of opporsite view about the statistics AVTC copied and pasted. But you know those statistics are actually lower considering lots of people don’t report crime.
Think about it, all the money spent to help non citizens here illegally could have been spent improving the life of a needy american and his family.
Thats what I find the most disgusting about the whole legal and illegal immigration.
I did my share and then some fighting illegal immigration and I will continue to fight it.
Most of you who read what I have just written think of your children and grandchildren.
Its their future thrown away if your voice and actions are used to combat this very real danger to america.
It was bad 41 years ago, its out of control. Its why some states are doing what the federal government has failed to do,bu enacting their own immigration fixes.
Cost baby they are expensive and they are always dropping more anchor babies.
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