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Thursday, March 31 2011 - 12:27 AM First we need to vote out everyone that are in there for their own party and not for the people of Calif. This can work for both the state and the government. 1. Any and all companies that have left the country for cheaper labor all TAX breaks should stop. 2. To get a job with any company that get more than 10% of their income from taxes should only be able to hire U.S. citizens. 3. Any employer that is caught hiring an illegal that company should be fined $1,000 per day per employee no excuses. That could even mean homeowners that hire their yard work out. 4. All yard Maintance companies would have to be checked out by the county or the city that they work in. This would give the cities more control and would requre a license and make sure that they were all legal to work. 5. English would be the only thing spoken at the work place, and all government business will be done in English and not writen up in 30 other lang. Millions saved just here. Feel free to add to this list I know that there are a lot more ways to save and put the American people back to work.
Putting Americans back to work
The way it seems to be going both the Democrats and the Republicans do not know what they are doing. One party wants to balance the budget on the backs of the public employees and only have 2 classes of people the rich and the poor the other wants to tax everyone out of California so everyone will be poor.
Cagy Wolf says...
Highground,Damn that sounds familar. I’ve been requesting our fine leaders to put forth an american protection act for years. Guess that also makes you a racist? Are you homophobic also?
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Cagy Wolf says...
I could make great money as a bounty hunter, doing something I love doing and getting paid to turn illegals. It wouldn’t get better then that.
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ritcsilv says...
Cagy my daughter says Iam because I don’t beleave in her life style but that ok I still Love her.
I don’t care what race or where they came from if they are illgel get the hell out. Most of the the illgels are Asians at lease that is what I’ve been told.
I have lost jobs and wasn’t hired because I only speak english.
After I lost my job with a local school a local school district because the supertendent wanted a payraise I became a over the road driver. Obama is going to let the Mexican drivers drive all over the United States noww. How many more are we going to have when they open the boarder for the truckers.
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Cagy Wolf says...
They have been driving our roads for years and even the trucking industry has been hurt by it. When things got real bad, prices the illegals having the nerve to march in our streets demanding amnesty pissed off several. Got into conversations at the gas station a lot of times with people bitching. I’ve lost jobs because they wanted to
A. Open up jobs for their relatives.
B. Prevent people who protest about illegal immigration.
C. Attack us in our country for protesting their being here illegally.
All I know is our leaders have sold us out, 50 years ago the national guard would have been called out and the illegals deported at gun point if they had tried to boycott america.NAFTA which is the north american trade agreement with mexico allows them to cross the border with their trucks.
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marino says...
ritcsilv, you’re asking for a miracle.
Jobs would become available and the unemployment rate would drop if immigration laws were simply enforced.
But overall our government caters to special interest, and then you have a percentage of Americans that cater to illegals and/or don’t don’t care what happens.
There are quite a few Congressmen, reps, governors, and mayors that need to be replaced, asap.
NumbersUSA.com.
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Cagy Wolf says...
How true marino. And I am getting tired and making mistakes, not to mention I am not thinking very clear at the moment. You know the reason why.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Right down the street on 90 east and 138hwy there is a yard filled with mexican trucks go see for yourself. The pricks also bypass the inspection stations.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Later guys, I can’t hack it any longer. I’m in too much pain.
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ritcsilv says...
Every time I go to the boarder I have to go through a big xray so they can see if I have any one in my truck. I am in Laredo just about 2 times a month and these xrays produce my rad. than you get at the dentist.
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roxi says...
And how many times do you go to the dentist? Maybe 1x a year, and if you stay with the same dentist, you’re exposed to dental xray’s maybe every 2-5 years. What BS.
Now they’re pushing stats for airline scanners: “an amount of radiation equivalent to 3 to 9 minutes of the radiation received through normal daily living.”
Is this if you live near a Nuke plant – or stand in front of your microwave an hour a day?
They did isolate 5-year girls out of this study, with no reason stated why – except we can assume that it would make them sterile.
Next question is WHY American truckers have to be exposed to this radiation — and why do we have to eat the radiated produce & cargo they’re transporting?
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lancaster says...
obama? obama? OBAMA????
look guys, he’s not making me a happy camper right now, but for fucks sake, blame hin for the shit he does.
mexican trucks became legal under bush!
obama has enforced more immigration laws, and has sent home more illegals in 2 yrs then bush did in 8!
ur desperation is insane. doesn’t matter if ur TIREDDDDDDD of hearing his name.
those are the facts.
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marino says...
From what I’ve read, Lanc, Obama has backed off on all raids on Co.‘s that hire many illegals. I don’t think there’s much if any of a difference between Bush and Obama when it comes to enforcemant. Obama may be a little more outspoekn about it seeing that he’s talking about amnesty again. But they’re all pretty much on the same team.
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lancaster says...
By Peter Slevin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, July 26, 2010
In a bid to remake the enforcement of federal immigration laws, the Obama administration is deporting record numbers of illegal immigrants and auditing hundreds of businesses that blithely hire undocumented workers.
The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration’s 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush’s final year in office.
The effort is part of President Obama’s larger project “to make our national laws actually work,” as he put it in a speech this month at American University. Partly designed to entice Republicans to support comprehensive immigration reform, the mission is proving difficult and politically perilous.
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lancaster says...
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Illegal Immigrant Deportations Up Under Obama
Washington Post: Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency Expects to Deport Some 400,000 People By End of Fiscal Year
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lancaster says...
Obama as border cop: He’s deported record numbers of illegal immigrants
New data suggest that the dramatic rise in deportations for illegal immigrants since 9/11 has continued under President Obama, hitting record levels in 2009.
*A suspect (l.) in Phoenix is fingerprinted by a Maricopa Country sheriff’s detention officer on July 26 to check his immigration status. The federal government is rapidly expanding a program to identify illegal immigrants using fingerprints from arrests.
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By Lourdes Medrano, Correspondent / August 12, 2010
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A parade of states led by Arizona says the federal government is not doing enough to combat illegal immigration. But by one measure – deportations – the federal government is doing more than it has ever done.
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In 2009, the United States deported a record 387,790 people – a 5 percent increase over 2008. Nearly two months before the end of the 2010 federal fiscal year, the deportation rate is down slightly from 2009, but the number of removals is still likely to be more than triple what it was in 2001.
The numbers come from a recently released study by Syracuse University in New York. Among the other significant findings: An increasing share of deportees are immigrants who have been convicted of a crime, reflecting President Obama’s desire to reorient the deportation process toward targeting criminals.
Critics of Mr. Obama worry that the focus on criminals could mean a pass for most noncriminal illegal immigrants. They also note that deportation alone does not represent a comprehensive immigration policy. But the deportation trend does run counter to many perceptions in border states and beyond about federal anti-illegal immigration efforts.
“We have never, ever deported so many people from the country as we are doing now,” says Douglas Massey, an immigration expert at Princeton University in New Jersey.
The only other time deportations came close to existing levels was in the early 1930s, during quasi-official deportation campaigns against Mexicans. Expulsions peaked at 136,000 in 1931 and "were done primarily by local officials and don’t show up in federal statistics on deportations,” Professor Massey says.
Behind the rise: 9/11
The current deportation boom began in the mid-1990s and accelerated after the 9/11 attacks. Since coming into office, Obama has begun to recast this trend.
In 2008 and 2009, for instance, the majority of removals were people who had not been convicted of any crime, according to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) data. Through Aug. 2, 51 percent of the 294,230 people deported or forced out this fiscal year were convicted criminals.
The report by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse is based on ICE data. It comes as the Obama administration endures strong criticism from state lawmakers and conservative pundits who say the federal government has done little to clamp down on illegal immigration and to secure the border.
In April, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a law that required local police, during the course of their normal duties, to determine the immigration status of potential illegal immigrants. Last month, a federal judge put this and other controversial parts of the law on hold, although some portions became effective July 29.
The Syracuse report is a rebuke to those backing Arizona-style laws, says Gregory Chen, director of advocacy for the American Immigration Lawyers Association: “It’s a perfect example of how those allegations are based really only in politics.”
Obama too focused on criminals?
But others say the Syracuse report doesn’t tell the full story. Removals may be on the rise, but they are not enough to rein in illegal immigration, says Ira Mehlman, a spokesman with the Federation for American Immigration Reform.
“The problem isn’t just criminal aliens, it is a general lack of respect for our laws, and even noncriminal aliens do have a significant impact on state budgets, on unemployment, on all sorts of things.”
Mr. Mehlman says the efforts to remove criminals is a tactic designed to promote an eventual amnesty for illegal immigrants who don’t commit crimes.
The report, however, suggests that a focus on criminals does not necessarily lead to a criminals-only policy. The report singles out the Secure Communities program – which relies on fingerprints from arrests – as one way the federal government can cast a wider net. The program targets not just suspects in serious crimes such as homicide, kidnapping, and sexual assault but also those arrested for traffic violations and a variety of other minor offenses.
The database-driven program is “a very large contributor to the increase in criminal aliens ICE has identified,” says Vincent Picard, an agency spokesman.
Secure Communities was launched in October 2008 and plans are to implement it in every jail by 2013.
Some say the continued rise in deportations may be Obama’s way of trying to win over critics and make his version of comprehensive immigration reform more palatable to opponents.
“The administration is trying to gain credibility – with enhanced enforcement, troops to the border, and by other measures – to make clear it is taking action on immigration,” says Jack Chin, a University of Arizona law professor.
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lancaster says...
The administration’s plan to overhaul federal immigration laws has led to the deportation of about 400,000 people this fiscal year. That’s ten percent more deportations than the Bush administration’s 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007, according to the Post.
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lancaster says...
Illegal immigrant deportations up under Obama
August 2nd, 2010, 10:41 am · 227 Comments · posted by Dena Bunis, Washington Bureau Chief
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The Obama administration is deporting more illegal immigrants than the Bush administration did, according to new figures released by Immigration and Customs Enforcement and analyzed by Syracuse University’s data research project TRAC.
According to the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) data, during the first nine months of federal fiscal year 2010 – that would be Oct. 1, 2009 to June 30, 2010 – 279,035 illegal immigrants were either deported or left voluntarily. That compares with 254,763 during the same period in 2008 and 141,837 during the same period in 2005.
Much has been made in recent months about whether the Obama administration has been enforcing the nation’s immigration laws. Gov. Jan Brewer has said the main reason she supported Arizona’s tough new immigration law – gutted last week in the first round of court actions – was because the federal government wasn’t doing its job in combating illegal immigration.
And during an interview on Fox News Sunday, former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin said that Obama didn’t have the “cojones” to enforce immigration laws so states like Arizona had to take matters into their own hands.
Click here to reaed TRAC’s full report.
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roxi says...
Obviously, “illegal immigration” has become the buzz word for the social ‘divas’ of the Right’s political world — which is ‘old news’ becuz there isn’t any work – even for the illegals.
The Right’s Movie Stars likes to beat the dead horse, because they have nothing else to offer but discourse.
Has nothing to do with Governing, and a lot about causing more chaos.
meanwhile…..No self-respecting Republican wants to admit just how many illegal guns are sold world-wide, and how this underground economy is destroying the moral fabric of not only this society but others. That’s not a factor they say – it’s a right.
Well, if it’s right, live with it.
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lancaster says...
i do get a bit sick of the ABSOLUTE lack of sanity here.
repugs ran on jobs/ illegals,
instead we got a bunch of sick fucks who can’t get their minds off OTHER peoples sex, or are screwing around on their mates.
abortion, gays, guns. while NOTHING they said they would do is even REMOTELY being discussed.
just more of bs girly whining. “ooohhhh
gays” “buy more guns” “my, my , MY religion” while WILLFULLY dissing someone else religion (which is soooo anti american, they should be JAILED just for un american behavior!) family values, family values, family values, while the same folks who spent $50 mil on a blow job WHERE GETTING BLOW JOBS FROM EVERYONE BUT THEIR WIVES, AT THE EXXXACTTTT SAME TIME!
reagan, their god, 1.2 million giving amnesty. and bush? duhhh tink i build a wall (drool)
damn that obama.
hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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lancaster says...
americans are stupid. but they are learning. there is a reason why the repugs are down to 30% approval.
as seen here daily!
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marino says...
roxi, we still have too many illegals. Just because the economy sucks, doesn’t mean they all went home. You and I know they and more will be back when the economy picks up.
One illegal alien here is too many. That shouldn’t be a Left or Right issue. That should be a Left and Right issue. Uninforcement of those laws is a cancer. And I don’t blame illegals. The Our guys making the calls need a re-alignment of their skulls. I don’t think voting for YOUR guy or MY guy will make a diff.
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marino says...
Lanc. No Repug is worse than the average liberal leader. If a liberal leader could stear things right, everyone would vote for him. It wouldn’t matter. Most people thought Obama would make things better. SHAZAMM! The older I get, the more backstabbing our politicians do. Right and left.
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lancaster says...
wrong marino. my guys at least pretend they care about the common man. and some of ’em even do.
ur guys don’t even bother to pretend. they got their masters and they sure the hell ain’t us!
proof is the BULLSHIT they been swimming in since Jan.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Look guys, right or left the illegals in this country are:
1. Taking jobs that americans want this is a fact.
2. They commit crimes here, but the media only reports the high profile cases.
3. If their excuse for being here is they “do the jobs americans won’t”, then why so many on welfare?
4. They committed the first crime by breaking our immigration laws, I and you all have to obey all the laws. So why should they get a pass?
This isn’t a right or left cause, its issue we as americans need to deal with together. And as long as we as a people are so divided the real leaders (the rich corperations) will continue to govern us.Illegals cause wage depression and undermines the people who can least afford the unfair competition. I mean the poor and working poor who have long been affected by the flood of illegals to this land.Cyberfool keeps talking about the worker’s paradise etc etc but he forgets about us the poor. Those jobs illegals take are the very jobs the unskilled need to get off welfare.
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Cagy Wolf says...
I will type out a opinion piece about the recent events in Alanta about the bill being passed against illegal immigration. Today I just don’t feel like it.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Roxi it is not because its the closest country that the illegals come from but the largest group from one country.Wise up. Stop the politics.
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roxi says...
@marino: Everyone agrees there are too many ‘illegals’ in this country, on the dole — but they all aren’t Mexicans! The Right tends to focus on the closest minority country, instead of focusing on the big picture, which are also many other nationalities that are on the take.
Until foreign-owned corporations are taxed accordingly for the cheap-alien labor they bring in through international work permits, who then import their relatives with host-family status – then get them on taxpayer funded welfare programs, none of this is going to stop.
Pricing out the cost of deporting illegals of all nationalities should be analyzed – and those abusing the system should be taxed accordingly.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Its cheaper to deport them, one with so many off welfare we could balance the state and federal budgets, second it would open up millions of jobs and third send a clear message that the gravy train has made its last stop.
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roxi says...
Cagy, if it’s EASIER for you to focus on one minority, instead of all of ‘em – and not the monied-corporations who encourage bringing in their own – then go for it. It only shows just how narrow minded you are though, but I guess that’s not a problem.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Taxed? They should be fined, license taken away the second time they get caught and jail time.
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Cagy Wolf says...
One when I say illegals, I mean illegals from China, Peru, England etc etc etc. But the ones abusing the system most are those from mexico. If you want to think me a racist and narrow minded that is fine.Just keep to the truth.
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Cagy Wolf says...
And its not because there are 11 million but more like 22-30 million.I am not blind of stupid, so when I see that hispanics are the largest growing (minority) and the numbers stay the same then I wonder why the lying.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Roxi I can see your not stupid. Think about it without the politics. We need to balance the budget and we needed to do it years ago. The first step is to cut off the benefits and rewards that the illegals (and Legal) immigrants that encourages them to break the law. And last who deserves those jobs, poor americans whose only crime is not having someone speak up for them by lobbying and special interests groups? The American poor are giving up. They want those jobs, it is a myth that they won’t.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Everywhere there has been an ICE raid on factories there are lines of americans in those lines. The ICE raids have stopped, ICE is only going after the hard core criminals. But it doesn’t matter if a thug illegal alien is driving drunk and kills you (or a loved one) and one who kills you because he hates, whites,blacks, asians etc etc there isn’t much difference your dead. I know I’ve lost friends.Ask me about Annie some time, but not today.
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Cagy Wolf says...
OK I’ll leave. But I do know first hand of what I say. And it isn’t based on emotional appeal but on facts, yes there is some emotion. I was attacked numerous times by those here illegally, it shouldn’t have happened once much less as many times that it happened.
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Cagy Wolf says...
What I can’t understand why being robbed and attacked by illegal aliens makes me a racist, or anyone speaking out against illegal immigration is a racist.
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ritcsilv says...
as a hard working over the road trucker. The Mexican truckers cannot go more than 25 miles from the boarder. The trucks you see in Little Rock or else where are owned by other Mexican using their names as company name. Look and see where the truck is Licensed at.
I am not against any one that wants to come to this country but do it legal. Just think that when they get their amnesty and I know they will get it because of the votes that it will bring to the President that aproves it. They will beable to vote in any and all election.
They will be allowed to vote but americans that have spent time in prison won’t be able to because they broke our american laws go figuire it.
I had a neice that worked at Magic Mountain that was told by a supervisior that she need to learn to speak mexican. She turned around and told her no that she needed to learn to speak english my niece no longer works there her supervisor made it bad for her so she quite.
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roxi says...
She should’ve waited until they laid her off, ritcsilve – but that’s another story.
There’s a huge population in the jails that can’t vote, but they are “represented” in their districts, which allows more representatives qualifying for that district. Isn’t it curious, that most of these in jail are either black or hispanic? Therefore, they cannot vote. Then you get the whites, who are in there too – who have some bogus felony for a drug charge, who cannot vote even if they’ve paid their dues in jail and are out.
The system is screwed up.
Giving Amnesty to those who circumvent the law with bogus ‘licenses’, perhaps in their 3-year old’s name becuz their ‘citizens’ is wrong. Is that specific SS# attached with the age of that person, contributing to the economy? If they are below the Federal mandated age requirement of 16, then bust ’em for child labor.
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leonardpflemkin says...
Speaking of jail, why are we paying prison dentists 330K a year? Why? What concept of prison and prisoners and dental care for prisoners am I missing?
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Cagy Wolf says...
The only way americans are going to be employed like they were in the 50’s is for closing the Tax loopholes, penalized those corp. that build in other countries, enforce our immigration laws and seeing that everyone employed has a legal right to work and belong here.
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roxi says...
What U’r missing leonard is, or maybe not because you already know – is that we are subsidizing a sub-culture thru bogus laws that with taxpayer monies, provide for those who do not fit in with the current societal laws.
Correct your are, Cagy – that enforcing immigration laws FOR ALL, including Corporate Persons, and closing the tax loopholes, would end the free ride many are enjoying, and hold them accountable for what “IT TAKES” to live in this country, which has become VERY expensive for those who do follow the script.
Otherwise, write a new script. And leave those who make less – out of it for once — for the free ride.
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leonardpflemkin says...
Roxi, what I cannot get over is that we have and PAY prison dentists. That is the dumbest, stupidist, most moronic thing I have ever heard since I have been living in the land of fruits and nuts. Prison dentists? Are we freaking nuts????
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leonardpflemkin says...
Ok…let me see…we have…PRISON DENTISTS?
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roxi says...
So, throw a brick thru a window and get yurself in prison if you need dental work!
Worked in the 30’s during the depression…altho I don’t know if they had dentists.
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lancaster says...
LPF did u look into the story of the “330k a yr dentist”. did it include his duties? or the fact that they laid off 2 dentist that had worked with him? that he was pulling 60 hrs a month OT?
the fact that there are maybe 3 or 4 in the state that even make that 330k?
not saying it isn’t a rip off. NOT SAYING IT IS!
but this is the kinda of misinformation that gets us fired up, yelling “death to government dentist everywhere”.
never explaining the what for or the why. or even explaining that it was a dishonest worker who had been padding his time card.
because i spent 10yrs working around prisons, and don’t ever remember meeting any rich doctors, dentist, guards or even wardens.
maybe they were good at hiding it!
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lancaster says...
also, lets say one of ur kids, grand kids, nieces, nephews brother sister wife husband does some thing stupid and finds themselves doing a couple of yrs.
something stupid, but non violent (think of them 14/15 yr olds we’re so hot to try as adults).
are u saying that the yrs in jail aren’t enough? they have to come out with their health ruined? it should just be part of their punishment?
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Cagy Wolf says...
lancaster calif. like many states spend more money keeping people in prison then they do on education. But and I do mean but,calif. has 18,000 illegal aliens in prison, one of the ways to balance the budget is send the bill to mexico. Bet they would enforce their side of the border like Mexico does with its south border.
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leonardpflemkin says...
lancaster, not saying “death to gov’t” at all. Questioning why the state a)has dentists when it could easily be outsourced much more cost effectively b) why, even with OT, a dentist working for the gov’t makes even close to that…I regularly pull 50 plus hour weeks with no OT, and I am not complaining; 3) why these dentists have no overhead and no malpractice insurance to worry about.
This is not misinformation; it is fact. 330K isn’t rich; it is just too much money for a service that could and should be done at far less dough. And yes, it is easy to hide. No one sees your IRA. ;)
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American says...
Hey, flemkin…I’ll say it…DEATH TO GOVERNMENT!!!
BIRTH TO LIBERTY!!!
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leonardpflemkin says...
American, I love your passion…but even our Founding Fathers created a government. It is supposed to be of and by the people, which is what I wish for. But the total absence of government would be anarchy. You don’t want that, do you?
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Cagy Wolf says...
How about just some common sense on behalf of our leaders? Truman and Ike were the last two presidents that acted on what is good for americans. Ike with his “Operation Wetback”, to deport illegal aliens and open up jobs for americans.
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ritcsilv says...
This state alone spendsup around 80,000 to keep one prisoner in prison and less than 6500 to educatate a child. What we should do is turn our schools into prisons and the prisons into schools.
It costs the schools 225,000 a year to have one officer sitting on a campus.
I sent a letter to the Runners a few years back that we should put the prisoners out into the fields and let them pick the onions and what ever else that needs to be picked across the state. Never heard a thing from them. Shreiff Joe does it and they have the work farms in the south if you think that they would run put chains on them.
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Cagy Wolf says...
ritcsilv that sounds like a good plan, put the illegal aliens to work who commit crimes and sooner or later they get the message its time to leave the USA. But until we take away the profit employers make hiring illegals, the problem isn’t going to go away.
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highground says...
You are on the right track.
Put Tarrifs on all imports. Protect American workers and the American economy.
Give 1/2 of the fine to anyone turning in the employer for hiring ILLEGALS. Bounty hunters always succeed.
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