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Tuesday, May 08 2012 - 02:36 PM
THE NEW AMERICAN WAY
The Democrats wants to inslave us by controling us through socal programs and government give aways. The Republican wants us inslave by bring back company stores, houseing.
roxi says...
There’s an interesting article that was published in the NY Times magazine this past Sunday about Edward Conard, former underling of Mitt Romney @ Bain/MA.
His new book, soon to be released: “Unintended Consequences: Why Everything You’ve Been Told About the Economy Is Wrong,” explains how those of the top .01% feel that inequality in wealth is good for the middle-class.
It explains a lot – as to why your friend invested his tax break $$ for his own gain – than hiring, or giving his workers a raise.
THE MONEY ISSUE
The Purpose of Spectacular Wealth, According to a Spectacularly Wealthy Guy
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/06/magazine/romneys-former-bain-partner-makes-a-case-for-inequality.html?pagewanted=1&r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th20120506
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ritcsilv says...
The working class of people in this country just want a good liveable salary. And a way to retire without much worry.
Over the last 30 years the working class salary has stayed about the same with the upper last or the top 5% salarys have raisen 700%.
I loss my job 2 years ago when the superindent wanted a 78k pay raise 5 of us got laid off so he could get it. He died 2 months ago.
The Water District that had to raise their rates to pay for the upper management over pay. I could go on but you see how I feel.
Obama is after the rich so he can get riches by making other ways to hid money. Romney doesn’t care about the poor by his own words. I don’t trust anyone in Washington who does insider trading but can send someone else to prison for doing the same thing.
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AV Town Crier says...
The problem is that both sides (dems and reps, left, right) are screwing us. Nobody is taking care of the middle class (or for that matter, the vast majority of Americans. It seems that we spend vast sums on corrupt foreign aid, give aways to illegals, and $billions and billions on stupid ass wars, whether against little countries that won’t play ball with us or the war on drugs, the war on terror.
It’s all BS and we’re broke (both financially and morally). Our political system has been corrupted and the American people don’t stand a chance.
We are slowly being evolved into a 3rd world country. Once that happens we-the people will go along with the NWO take over. This has all been planned since at least the 1950’s. Norman Dodd of the CFR said as much in 1955.
You have a choice, go along with the program and shut the fuck up. Or be a part of a new American revolution with the goal of restoring the US Constitution and the America our founding fathers crafted (and shed their blood) for.
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avbornbred says...
One thing to know. The super wealthy, not the rich, but the Buffett’s and Sorros’s, don’t pay taxes. They live off of company credit. Buffett’s claim his secretary pays more is probably true. But he does not recieve a paycheck. He lives off of a credit card that his company pays off. Sorros lives outside the country.
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American says...
Have to agree with all of the above…what’s even cooler is that this is being discussed in a local sort of medium…this way reform can maybe actually have a bit of an impact…ya think?? LOL, yea right, idon’t think anything less than a flex of our 2nd amendment rights will fruit any freedom. Too much to wonder about or no?
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roxi says...
05/08/12 – 03:58 PM
ritcsilv says…
The working class of people in this country just want a good liveable salary. And a way to retire without much worry.
Over the last 30 years the working class salary has stayed about the same with the upper last or the top 5% salarys have raisen 700%.
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Yes, salaries for the middle-class have flat-lined for the past 30 years, yet the costs of living skyrocketed, and we now have an Uber-riche who have everything – and want more.
Their theory is that the U.S. economy currently serves them, at the expense of everyone else. They whine that if they don’t have all the money, but benefit from their “investments” by oppressive wages for everyone else — they say we’d be losing $5 an ‘item’ that they made better – and for cheaper.
According to them, the reason WHY they should have all the $$, they say, is because most Americans don’t know how of the economy works – that most people are “consumers”, not “investors”.
They tend to eliminate the fact in this ‘theory’ WHO WORKED for them, either by being a ‘good Team Player’, (ack) or a “creative” who invented the product which made them so rich in the first place.
Basically, what I get from the link I posted above, is that their attitudes, including ROMNEY and his gang-that it’s better to keep the majority of the American people poor, because their main focus is to manufacture the CHEAPEST possible product, for the HIGHEST return of investment….so they’ve gotta have somebody buy their crap, don’t they?
Workers be damned.
There are people advocating for the citizens of this country – they aren’t invisible, and they speak up loudly.
“Sanders(I), Vt., ….who has led the fight to preserve education, healthcare and social services funding in the face of proposals by House Budget Committee Chair Paul Ryan and his fellow proponents of an American austerity agenda, says the message sent by European voters can and should be echoed by American voters.
“In the United States and around the world, the middle class is in steep decline while the wealthy and large corporations are doing phenomenally well,” says Sanders.
“The message sent by voters in France and other European countries, which I believe will be echoed here in the United States, is that the wealthy and large corporations are going to have to experience some austerity also and that that burden cannot solely fall on working families.”
“…Sanders is making the connections, recognizing the importance of a democratic push-back against policies that are as cruel as they are economically unsound.”
“In the United States, where corporate profits are soaring and the gap between the rich and everybody else is growing wider, we must end corporate tax loopholes and start making the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes,” the senator explains.
“At the same time, we must protect Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Austerity, yes, but for millionaires and billionaires, not the working families of this country.”
Sander is, of course, correct."
—-TheNation.com
Out of the mouths of Progressives. No wonder the Right thinks they’re COMMIES. They’re speaking the truth, and could make them pay their fair share of the wealth – that the American Workers made possible.
Right, since they live on credit cards that their corporations pay for as a tax write off — why work?!
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marino says...
Because those are what we are currently left to chose from. Now, which puppet would you like? Obama or Romney?
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avbornbred says...
Roxi: the working Joe’s in this country would have plenty of money if the government would stop taxing the shit out of people.
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Ray Cunneff says...
An interesting article today in Newsmax, former U.S. senator (and star basketball player) Bill Bradley has a recipe for breaking Washington gridlock.
Bradley tells Newsmax that “vicious political combat” is needed in Washington to deal with the “polarization and paralysis” gripping the legislative process.
The New Jersey Democrat says the failure of both parties to deal with pressing issues could lead to the creation of a third congressional party to “jar” Democrats and Republicans into bipartisan action.
And he predicts that the United States could be headed for “another meltdown” if significant changes aren’t made regarding the financial industry.
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Cagy Wolf says...
To get rid of graft and corruption all campaign donations goes into a general fund and equally given out to all the candidates.
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avbornbred says...
Roxi: have you ever worked a day in your life. You sound like you have been an entitlement recipient your whole life. It sounds like you are afraid of losing benefits if taxes are reduced.
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Cagy Wolf says...
avbb thats what this society has become an entitlement orientated bunch of lazy parasites who sponge off the hard working tax payer.
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highground says...
marino
Only those puppets marching in lock step with the TALKING HEADS have a narrow choice.
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ritcsilv says...
We the parents and grandparents have done alot of this to our children and grandchildren.
How many of use gave our kids whatever they wanted exp: tv games while growing up $100 shoes and now how many of our kids or grandkids at the age of 9 or below believe that it’s there rights that we owe them a cell phone or some other thing.
We have turned our own children into intitler that they think that we owe them a living.
The government has made it impossible for our kids to have a job they cann’t deliver papers anymore its not safe for them to ride their bikes, can’t mow lawns they my hit a rock or sprinkler and hit them in the legs can go on and on over what our government has down to keep our children from learning how to work.
In the last election I did not vote for any dem or rep and this election mostly well do the same thing.
To bad they don’t have none of the above on the ballet who would win than
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Cagy Wolf says...
HIGHGROUND AND RITCSILV YOU ARE RIGHT, MY GRANDKIDS ARE SPOILED AND ARE LAZY. I OFFER TO LET MY GRANDDAUHTER USE MY LAWNMOWER TO WORK MAKING MONEY, SHE WOULD RATHER SIT IN FRONT OF THE COMPUTER.
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roxi says...
People who don’t bother to raise their children with set values, consideration for others, teach them to read at an early age, etc etc — and expect the Government, Teachers and society to do it all, get what they deserve.
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CMGINAV says...
AUTHOR: Benjamin Franklin (1706–90)
QUOTATION: “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?” “A Republic, if you can keep it.”
ATTRIBUTION: The response is attributed to BENJAMIN FRANKLIN—at the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, when queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation—in the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland’s delegates to the Convention.
McHenry’s notes were first published in The American Historical Review, vol. 11, 1906, and the anecdote on p. 618 reads: “A lady asked Dr. Franklin Well Doctor what have we got a republic or a monarchy. A republic replied the Doctor if you can keep it.” When McHenry’s notes were included in The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787, ed. Max Farrand, vol. 3, appendix A, p. 85 (1911, reprinted 1934), a footnote stated that the date this anecdote was written is uncertain.As a nation gets prosperous, the people are absorbed in material things. They ignore the men in charge and focus on their own busy lives and gadgets. They take for granted their freedom. The wolves in the population, the greedy and power hungry see this complacency and use it to gain power. Except today the wolves have access to scientific knowledge, drugs, high tech weapons, and nukes. This is called a scientific dictatorship so drink your fluoridated water, eat the GMO foods, enjoy the poisonous artificial sweetners added to your foods, and most of all be good and take your dirty vaccines…good sheeple.
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roxi says...
What gets me is that people see nothing wrong with all their hard-earned money in lieu of taxes be given to the Corporations, and not the society in which they live. Amazing.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Well if West Virginia is any indication Obama is in deep doo doo, an immate ran against Obama and actually got 41% of the democratic votes. So people aren’t very happy with the way the Dog Eating President has been carrying out his duties.
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avbornbred says...
I like how the libs say the Tea Party is dead. Indiana GOP Senate race had Tea Party candidate win. Two of Romney’s VP candidates also Tea Party. How many Occupy candidates won?
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marino says...
5/9/12 3:37
Wow. roxi sounding like a Conservative.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Marino, Roxi is like the theory of if you have enough monkey’s typing for thousands of years, they might actualy type a sentence that makes sense. Otherwise its just luck not common sense on her part OR she is finally realizing that a nanny state like what Obama invisions is unrealistic and ain’t gonna happen. Look at the UK, is the people happy? Are the people of the UK living better? Nope cause their economy is failing as is the socialist system as it breaks down. You can’t even defend yourself, cause the police certainly can’t be everywhere they are needed, no more so than the police can be where you need them.
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AV Town Crier says...
Sadly, at the end of the day (come this November) nothing will change. if Mitt wins (I doubt it) he will support more of the same corporate greed that’s got us in this mess in the first place. Obama (who will likely win) is too weak to lead and give congress direction and inspiration.
Sadly, a vast majority of those who bother to vote, will vote for either Mitt or Obama. Both are owned and operated by the power elite. Until we-the people quit voting for mainstream asshole puppets nothing will change.
Personally, I’ll vote for Dr. Paul (even if i have to write in his name.)
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Sovereignty Soldier says...
the top .01% feel that inequality in wealth is good for the middle-class.
The top .01% do not even want a middle class nor do they support it. The middle class is competition for those who already control.
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Sovereignty Soldier says...
In the words of David Rockefeller, “competition is a sin”…at least to them.
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roxi says...
05/10/12 – 04:30 PM
Sovereignty Soldier says…
the top .01% feel that inequality in wealth is good for the middle-class.
The top .01% do not even want a middle class nor do they support it. The middle class is competition for those who already control.
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Very true.
When more individuals who have $$ become philanthropists and spread the wealth by encouraging ‘the entrepreneurial spirit’ as they call it — maybe their reputations will improve (not that they care).
I get this feeling that everyone in the U.S. better get a Passport. Michele Bachmann can now run for political office & vote in Switzerland with her ‘duel citizenship’.
Perhaps becoming a millionaire, like the rest of ‘em in Congress wasn’t enuf for her to be a loyal U.S. citizen?
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avbornbred says...
Roxi, you two can get US Citizenship. Find a guy who is an American citizen and you too can reep the benefits of this great nation
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roxi says...
I guess you took your dumbass pill this am, Avbb – my ancestors go back to the Revolutionary War. Is that enuf for U?
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Cagy Wolf says...
Roxi you said your grandfather was a immigrant, so are you lying or what?
My folks on the white side has been here since 1644 and my family has fought in every war this nation has had. And of course my native american family has been here 30,000 years. I don’t think you can top that baby.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Roxi you are an idiot, Bachman married a guy who is swiss she got auntomatic citizenship because of that. Don’t you even pay attention to the facts or are you so blind you can only see what you want to see or believe the liberal MSMedia propaganda?
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Sovereignty Soldier says...
roxi says…
I get this feeling that everyone in the U.S. better get a Passport.
Not if you owe the IRS. This private corporation assumes to have the authority to deactivate peoples’ passport if they owe taxes. No nation on earth does this, let alone let a private corporation do it.
If you look into it, more and more people are renouncing citizenship and leaving. The globalists HATE AMerica and Americans. We are the roadblock that has kept them from achieving their goal thus far. Our guns, our freedom, our access to info are all threats to these people.
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roxi says...
@SS, well, I don’t owe the IRS, so I guess I get a passport. @CW, yes I said my grandfather was an immigrant – most children have 2 parents, or were you a biological mutant born in a test tube?
Bachmann has denounced her citizenship to Switzerland – but one wonders if HER husband is a citizen? Back in the day, if he wasn’t when her children were born, they’d all be ANCHOR babies!
ha.
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ritcsilv says...
Listening to talk radio they say that the Top 1% pays 50% of the taxes and the top 10% pays 75% of the taxes. and they say that 50% of the people don’t pay any taxes.
What don’t want to hear is that the top 1% controls 60% of the money
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ritcsilv says...
I had a friend that had a business that when he got the tax breaks he just put that into the bank instead of paying workers again more saying thanks to President Bush for the pay raise.
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